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EverettB Administrator
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sled Samba Member
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Grant Reiling Samba Slow-Change Artist
Joined: November 28, 2003 Posts: 491 Location: behind the wheel
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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...May be the "joke" is showing it in a garage heaped with leaves and unrelated clutter...
Good luck with that.
And getting that 'Mecums/Christie's/Gooding &Co.' price.
_________________ 1952 Azure Blue 12G (LHD Deluxe 3-fold sunroof Sedan).
"What you really know is possible in your heart is possible.
We make it possible by our will.
What we imagine in our minds becomes our world. That’s just one of many things I have learned from water."
Misaru Emoto
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1774 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2146364
Wrong rear apron, generator, carburetor, distributor, intake manifold etc,etc. Also VIN is listed as 10454417 which puts it in October 1953 so not a zwitter.
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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volksair Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2006 Posts: 186 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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Stated VIN puts it in early March 1953, and according to sources, first oval was chassis 1-0454951.
You are absolutely right, some incorrect parts.
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oldovaldriver Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2003 Posts: 258 Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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Volksair indicates the VIN is indeed a Zwitter, exactly as the seller says. I found confirmation in Lawrence Merideth's "Original VW Beetle," p. 44.
The seller lists the car's positive points, as any seller would. Nowhere is it said or implied that every part is original, and few buyers would expect so from a 65-year-old car in South America. In fact the seller describes the car's condition as "3 - good," a humble enough assessment. So why not some positivity with the criticism?
I am wary of holding all these old cars to the highest possible standard, and in the process possibly sowing bad blood. If our commentary is merely informative, fine. But I sense a different slant, that somehow perfection is the new expected norm. If your own car is a perfect time-capsule (unlikely), good for you. But please don't run down otherwise good cars, or their sellers by implication.
I've been around VWs since the 1960s. The Volkswagen was (hopefully still is?) a unique automotive phenomenon, with unique impact on the world. I am heartened by the continued enthusiasm a half century later, but dismayed how some of us now view VWs as investments, museum pieces, or ego props. As an historian myself, I feel it misses the point. Go read John Muir or Think Small! This new obsession can even be tragic. I've seen good project cars sacrificed for their parts, just to make other restorations more "perfect." The value of the remaining cars may rise, but the overall number of survivors goes down. This may be good as a monetary investment, but it hurts the community. Fewer early cars on the road. Fewer early projects for newcomers. Fewer new memories for the young.
I do appreciate the spirit of originality, but I don't mind a few reproduction and later parts on a well-loved VW like this one. That's what replacement parts are for--keeping our cars and memories alive. This looks like a nice car. In Bogota no less! I'd love to hear the stories it could tell, if only I spoke Spanish. |
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sunroof Samba Member
Joined: October 06, 2006 Posts: 1774 Location: Winnipeg
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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Stated VIN puts it in early March 1953, and according to sources, first oval was chassis 1-0454951.
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You are right! How did I make that mistake?
Don _________________ Better and better mistakes! |
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bwaz Samba Member
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OvalinAz Samba Mini Tech
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bwaz Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1780
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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notified him that I thought they were 36. |
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johnshenry Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2001 Posts: 9364 Location: Northwood, NH USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2153961
For that much money ($680 for a split pass door window regulator, NOS) it should at least be the left side one that seems to wear out 100x faster then the right side.... _________________ John Henry
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klubbs Samba Member
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Porsche904 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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it's the factory made replacement door for split and early oval, fits both types from at least 47/48 until 55 |
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awreed Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2010 Posts: 1268 Location: Kirkland, WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2157200
Does this count as completely restored still if it's in pieces and some of those pieces are missing (seat covers, door handles, keys)? |
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sled Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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definitely not.
some people, I tell ya.. _________________ drive your split. |
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bwaz Samba Member
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René R. Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2015 Posts: 1712 Location: No. Calif.
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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1952?? eBay link.
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Frame off restoration 1952 on a 1957 pan, titled 1952, no expense spared on this completely frame of restored masterpiece |
_________________ Gone but not forgotten: 1950 Hoffman split (restored in 1966) - another 1950 Hoffman split (restored in 1996) |
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Porsche904 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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René R. wrote: |
1952?? eBay link.
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Frame off restoration 1952 on a 1957 pan, titled 1952, no expense spared on this completely frame of restored masterpiece |
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what's wrong? it's a 52' Zwitter |
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volksair Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2006 Posts: 186 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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Porsche904 wrote: |
René R. wrote: |
1952?? eBay link.
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Frame off restoration 1952 on a 1957 pan, titled 1952, no expense spared on this completely frame of restored masterpiece |
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what's wrong? it's a 52' Zwitter |
Please forgive me Porsche904, but as hard as I look at it, I cannot find anything '52 , or Zwitter for that matter, on this vehicle. I will have to agree with Rene... |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5481 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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The doors and what is visible of the door jam suggest it's post '55. The ash tray backs that up. _________________
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