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vwtrey
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| Grant Reiling wrote: |
...Yeah, the "list of anomalies" is long and grows longer the closer one looks.
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Among other things, it looks like I did the headliner! |
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3foldfolly
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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Incorrect later seats. |
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EA57RHD
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| Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2554093
Not a whine, but I wanted to add this link here. it's posted in the bus section incorrectly. This appears to be a crank start bar for a split bug and not a bus.
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50Splitman
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| Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| 3foldfolly wrote: |
Incorrect later seats. |
Just a split rear window and dash grafted into a 56 or 57 oval. |
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Bruce
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:23 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| 50Splitman wrote: |
| 3foldfolly wrote: |
Incorrect later seats. |
Just a split rear window and dash grafted into a 56 or 57 oval. |
I counted 7 different sheet metal details that confirms what you said.
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nlorntson
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Location: Twin Cities, MN
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| Body number is January 1954 right? It's a total fraud to call it a 1950 car. |
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janerick3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| Body number is January 1954 right? It's a total fraud to call it a 1950 car. |
Body number is September 1955. There are a lot of '54-'55 parts on the car, including some '55-only parts (engine lid and doors). My thinking is this car started as a late '55 rollover(?) wreck, which is why is has a '56 body shell. The heater control is hidden in the photos, which makes me think the pan is also '55.
Passenger seat is '55 or older; driver's side is later.
Engine appears to be '60 accessories installed onto a factory-rebuilt '58 case.
This car eerily reminds me of Garth's '46, which was for sale in the classifieds for years.
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| Body number is September 1956. |
Doesn't September 1956 end with 344 124 ?
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janerick3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| janerick3 wrote: |
| Body number is September 1956. |
Doesn't September 1956 end with 344 124 ?
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I meant to say September 1955, which was 55712. Corrected it in my post above.
The "Made in Western Germany" tag replaced the "Made in Germany" tag sometime in 1955.
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latinporsche911
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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| nlorntson wrote: |
| Body number is January 1954 right? It's a total fraud to call it a 1950 car. |
Body number is September 1955. There are a lot of '54-'55 parts on the car, including some '55-only parts (engine lid and doors). My thinking is this car started as a late '55 rollover(?) wreck, which is why is has a '56 body shell. The heater control is hidden in the photos, which makes me think the pan is also '55.
Passenger seat is '55 or older; driver's side is later.
Engine appears to be '60 accessories installed onto a factory-rebuilt '58 case.
This car eerily reminds me of Garth's '46, which was for sale in the classifieds for years. |
What does it mean by "period correct" engine? Correct decade? Correct century? Or maybe it's a correct month.... |
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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When I see stuff like this for sale it irks me to know someone may now try to build a fake split and use this to legitimize it.
Or it's just cool wall art... 
198224
1-0252063
Maybe we need a sticky and all these types of things are documented there. And a search of the vin or body number will easily find them. |
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DLarsen
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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Does anyone know what happened to the listing for a '52 split that was for sale yesterday for a short time? The car was supposedly solid, in Connecticut, and was $7k. Username was new, cardude67. No phone number. I made an offer higher than asking price but never heard back. I'm just wondering if it was legit.
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EverettB
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Bruce
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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I have to rant a bit about this seller: EnzoVw
He's selling this hand crank as split Beetle etc.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2430326
The length of it from the pulley bolt to the first bend is far too short to work on a Beetle. Notice how it has a smaller diameter pin in the end of it? That's to go in the pulley bolt that has a hole in it. That type of bolt was only installed in 1970s military Type 181s. That means this crank is just a common 70s part.
Next up is this rear hood handle:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2523026
No, it does NOT fit a Beetle, the threaded stud end is far too short. Many years ago, I did some research and determined it is for a Gogomobil. This seller has been told it doesn't fit a beetle, but he still attempts to defraud the unsuspecting buyer.
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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The crank handle may be for an Industrial engine too, they use that same pin.
The decklid handle he gives some details in his ad text but I agree there is still a good chance someone won't read it and buy it anyway to find out it will not work.
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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When I see stuff like this for sale it irks me to know someone may now try to build a fake split and use this to legitimize it.
Or it's just cool wall art...
198224
1-0252063
Maybe we need a sticky and all these types of things are documented there. And a search of the vin or body number will easily find them. |
Not to mention that doing much of anything with that would be a felony in most states.
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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When I see stuff like this for sale it irks me to know someone may now try to build a fake split and use this to legitimize it.
Or it's just cool wall art...
198224
1-0252063
Maybe we need a sticky and all these types of things are documented there. And a search of the vin or body number will easily find them. |
Perhaps it would be good to list these in the Split Registry? It could be listed as "VIN Tag Body number sheet metal only".
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72MUST
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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https://www.facebook.com/DavidGoldingCars
early 52 for sale, looks smart enough, has newer 1200 motor with alternator
any views on the originality of the rest of the car ? |
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finster
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine/discussion about Split cars/parts for sale |
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^ looking at the numbers suggests a march 52 car. it's obviously had a new interior including headliner. the deck lid T handle is not correct and the bumpers should be the earlier grooved ones. looks like maybe a front valence repair/replacement and a patch on the heater channel closing plate. cant make out if those wheels are the 16 inch they should be. heater outlets should be circular(?). however a main point is that the car does not have crotch coolers which would indicate a standard model (unless they've been cut out/filled) in which case there should be no chrome, three spoke steering wheel and no grille in the front wing. was 10/11 A the standard model - I can't remember? think I can see cable brakes so maybe a standard updated with deluxe stuff? any history known, says it's from croatia?
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