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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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The Bentley doesn't really explain this, or else I'm overlooking it. My 85 Westy has the 3-speed auto transmission. It shifts fine and seems to work fine, but my problem is with the shifter itself.
When it's in PARK, the shifter stalk lines up with the "P" indicator on the console. No problem there. But when I want to back out of my driveway, to engage "REVERSE" my shifter actually lines up with the "N" indicator on the console. (Reverse lights also don't work unless I push the lever towards the front) To engage DRIVE, I have to line it up with the "1" position on the console. So it seems everything is one notch off.
In addition, if I needed to, I don't think I could get the shifter into 1st gear, I can't physically get the shift lever back as far as it would need to be.
I'm thinking that something in the linkage needs to be aligned or adjusted. Anyone ran into this problem before?
Also, a minor issue,the shift button upon the handle vibrates at around 65mph and makes an irratating buzzing sound. Any way to tighten that up? _________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
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captainpartytime Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2005 Posts: 715 Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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My shifter button also vibrates with an irritating tapping! I just thought I was obsessive compulsive about my van! I'm actually working on a solution right now (other than holding the button while I drive) as I have the whole mechanism taken apart. Will post an update if I find anything. _________________ -Kerry
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hiram6 Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2006 Posts: 1880 Location: Beautiful South
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Captain, not that we're anal or aything, but that is a pretty annoying buzz generated by that button!!
Anyone have any advice on my bigger issue, that of getting the gear selections to line up correctly?? _________________ 1985 Westy, 1.9L automatic (Daisy)
1996 Mazda Miata
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited
You can't lie around on the beach and drink rum all day.................unless you start first thing in the morning. |
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Bcassin Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2009 Posts: 13 Location: MA
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Hiram6, did you ever solve your bigger problem of lining up the shift points? I’m experiencing a similar issue. |
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Marshj Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2017 Posts: 268 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Bcassin wrote: |
Hiram6, did you ever solve your bigger problem of lining up the shift points? I’m experiencing a similar issue. |
I reconnected a shift linkage cable on my 1990 automatic last weekend. I. It's previous life someone removed it. At first the idea was intimidating, but once you get in there and start adjusting the linkage there's not much you can mess up.
I know this is old but hopefully helps someone. Adjustment is in the Bentley in section 37. I had my van on jack stands and actually adjusted the fore section of the linkage where it connects to the selector handle ( thing you adjust ) on the bottom of the van above the spare tire. There is a 1" slot in the linkage cable that you can move it forward and back to adjust how it pulls the transmission gear selector at the other end of the cable. You should be able to make all your adjustments here.
The reason I had it on jack stands was so I could tell when it was in P as well as Nuetral. Then i knew I had adjusted it correctly or close. |
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vredondo Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: Costs Rica
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Hi there
I'm having the same issue but in my case I need to go all the way down from P to 1st to engage reverse, I tried to adjust the linkage as the Bentley manual suggest at section 37 but that doesn't still let me engage reverse at the right shift position... Any suggestions? |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3582 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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vredondo wrote: |
Hi there
I'm having the same issue but in my case I need to go all the way down from P to 1st to engage reverse, I tried to adjust the linkage as the Bentley manual suggest at section 37 but that doesn't still let me engage reverse at the right shift position... Any suggestions? |
I’m trying to understand this, are you moving the shifter back up from 1st gear back to Reverse, and it works then?
Or are you so off in shifter adjustment that Reverse works way down in 1st, which then makes me wonder how you get Drive…
Check your cable for signs of breaking, I would be surprised if the normal adjustment slotting at the bottom of the shifter could get you this far out of adjustment, it seems like a worn part is adding to your issue. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
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vredondo Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: Costs Rica
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Hi jlrftype7
Thanks for reply, as you said "are you so off in shifter adjustment that Reverse works way down in 1st" that's my current issue but it didn't happen suddenly, it started first as hiram6 describe in the first post of this thread, now the shifter is so off that I can't engage nothing else than P and R, I do not see anything break or loose in the linkage, so I'm guessing that as you said there must be a worn part, not in the linkage but in the gear box |
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jlrftype7 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2018 Posts: 3582 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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You can carefully remove the clip that holds the shift cable to the trans linkage.( have a magnet RIGHT next to the clip as you’re removing it so it doesn’t go flying on you)
Then, with the cable now removed off the linkage , you then manually move the trans linkage through all the possible gears and see if all of them feel like they’re getting into each detent as you select them.
If that all went well, you’re back to looking over the rear section of the shift cable. I can take a picture of my spare cable if you need to see how it’s constructed. I’m worried you only have a few strands acting as the cable. _________________ '68 Westy- my first VW and vehicle/Bus- long gone.- sold it to a traveling Swiss couple....
'67 Type 3 Fastback, my 2nd car- gone
'69 Semi-Auto Stick Shift Beetle-gone
2017 MINI Coopers, our current DDs
‘84 Tin Top - Hilga....Auto |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16879 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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jlrftype7 wrote: |
I’m worried you only have a few strands acting as the cable. |
it's not a cable. it's a solid wire with the ends swaged on. _________________
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Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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vredondo Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: Costs Rica
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Hi guys,
So I find out that the problem is with the lever for the selector cable, is worn and it not moving the lever shaft properly, the solution could be weld the lever with the shaft, but Im not sure how feasible could be find those parts
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Help us here a bit, is your problem that the "lever for selector cable" if coming apart and has gotten play in it? or is the problem between the "lever for selector cable" and the "operating lever with shift segment for manual valve"? |
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vredondo Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: Costs Rica
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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Hi Wildthings,
Yes, the lever for selector cable is coming apart and has gotten play in it, if I put the lever in the position P (pushing to the rear as the Bently manual suggest to adjust the linkage section 37.3, fig 4) and then try to push forward looking to engage R the lever is quite loosed and when it's close to the end it somehow it gets less loosed and engages the R, but there is no more space to keep pushing and engaging the rest of gears |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50351
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Automatic shifter linkage adjustment |
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vredondo wrote: |
Hi Wildthings,
Yes, the lever for selector cable is coming apart and has gotten play in it, if I put the lever in the position P (pushing to the rear as the Bently manual suggest to adjust the linkage section 37.3, fig 4) and then try to push forward looking to engage R the lever is quite loosed and when it's close to the end it somehow it gets less loosed and engages the R, but there is no more space to keep pushing and engaging the rest of gears |
Probably not too hard to find another lever as the basic 010 transmission was used in other VW and Audi products of the era. If you find you need to have it welded you will have to figure out how to clock the lever accurately or your shifting will never be right. |
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Dennis Ku Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2013 Posts: 13 Location: California and Taiwan
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:50 am Post subject: |
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captainpartytime wrote: |
My shifter button also vibrates with an irritating tapping! I just thought I was obsessive compulsive about my van! I'm actually working on a solution right now (other than holding the button while I drive) as I have the whole mechanism taken apart. Will post an update if I find anything. |
I had the same issue and the root cause is that there is one spring in shifter and it is vibrating and touching the shifter bracket. |
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