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Mike Fisher
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 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: 72/AT |
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| We tried to turn over the 72. The torque converter is spinning, but the engine isn't? |
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Tram
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Either someone removed the bolts that hold the torque converter to the drive plate, or the crankshaft is broken.
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Missing dowel pins?  |
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| We just towed it home w/sea blue rebuilt never fired engine bolted in. I can see the flatish flex plate next to the roundish torque converter. I guess I better pull the engine to see what the PO left out! |
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vwfye
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mike, did you trailer or dolly the car? if you dollied the car and didn't unhook the axles, your tranny is toast! i hope that isn't the case
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| We tow dollied w/rear axles on the dolly. |
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vwfye
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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good... the trans acutally needs to be cirulating fluid while the axles turn.
hey tomnotch, is that picture you have of the hole in a case from towing an auto trans or an engine?
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Can we balance the engine on a 12" X 12" heavy plywood & floor jack to drop it down? I guess I oughta take all stock exhaust/heater boxes off that I just got on yesterday  |
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Why don't you check to see if the TC is bolted to the flex plate, before pulling the engine?
Not seeing how you can get the TC spinning if the engine isn't running (unless it's by hand from the access cut out). If so you should be able to check the bolts.
good luck
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The flex plate is NOT bolted to the torque converter! I can spin the TC and see the bosses for the bolts. I guess I'll lever the engine around to find a bolt hole on the FP. |
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Tram
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Why don't you check to see if the TC is bolted to the flex plate, before pulling the engine?
Not seeing how you can get the TC spinning if the engine isn't running (unless it's by hand from the access cut out). If so you should be able to check the bolts.
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Exactly. Maybe they just didn't bolt it in.
Sounds like this should be my car, anyways... hopefully you haven't yanked the FI yet?
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| Tram wrote: |
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Why don't you check to see if the TC is bolted to the flex plate, before pulling the engine?
Not seeing how you can get the TC spinning if the engine isn't running (unless it's by hand from the access cut out). If so you should be able to check the bolts.
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Exactly. Maybe they just didn't bolt it in.
Sounds like this should be my car, anyways... hopefully you haven't yanked the FI yet? |
Edit: Guess you found out already.
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Late model IRS block w/Solex's! I got a box of FI parts, but no ECU or electric fuel pump. |
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| Late model IRS block w/Solex's! I got a box of FI parts, but no ECU or electric fuel pump. |
you've got a P...
nah, ill let tram take this one 
im flat broke anyways.
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Pulled the engine/ground the MT cases for room for wrench on flex plate bolts/reinstalled and bolted up to AT & IT'S ALIVE!!!  |
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Congratulations. Can I have your FI stuff?
Cheers
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what kind of bolts did you use for the flex plate,?
if you use normal non hardend bolts they will stretch, come loose and start to machine the back of your engine case (dont ask me how i know)
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Mike Fisher
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| They are stamped 8.8 like the original. |
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Mark Evans
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So, the motor runs o.k. Mike?
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Mike Fisher
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| I might have exaggerated a little. We're only getting gas squirting out of the right carb. It was popping back like the cap wires might be wrong? We quit there yesterday, but I'm gonna get back on it this morning. How long do you think the car has been sitting? The gas smelled like varnish, but we just dumped more gas in it to dilute it. PS Mark is the PO |
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