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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Early Barndoor Panel in Brazil Reply with quote

A couple of years ago I found I had been added to the mailing list of The Brasilian Fusca Club (FUCAABC). I don't know much about the club and the regular postings are in Portuguese with an English automated translation that sometimes takes a bit of deciphering.

Today I got a posting of a show in Sao Paulo commerating the 50th Anniversary of the Kombi in Brasil...'57 was the opening of the VW Factory in Sao Paulo and a Kombi was the first vehicle off the assembly line.

There were quite a few attached pictures of buses of course but one in particular that I thought would interest the Barndoor cognacente.

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Can't read the licence plate on the rear panel but I have an idea who the owner is, anyone heard about this one?

To my untutored eye it looks like early 1950.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think thats the late 50 that was up for sale recently, the rear badge is not right for that bus, i think $45k was the asking price Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody notice the damage to the passengers side roof by the nose and front door. Looks like something fell on it and damaged it pretty well, roof line is way off and a-pillar looks pushed in too. Looks sweet other than that, and the damage could be easily fixed. Still a sweet early BD for sure.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

49barndoor wrote:
I think thats the late 50 that was up for sale recently, the rear badge is not right for that bus, i think $45k was the asking price Wink


Indeed it is Ian.

Nice and early but unfortunately not a good restoration.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichOakley wrote:
49barndoor wrote:
I think thats the late 50 that was up for sale recently, the rear badge is not right for that bus, i think $45k was the asking price Wink


Indeed it is Ian.

Nice and early but unfortunately not a good restoration.


Can't be the owner I was thinking of then.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichOakley wrote:
49barndoor wrote:
I think thats the late 50 that was up for sale recently, the rear badge is not right for that bus, i think $45k was the asking price Wink


Indeed it is Ian.

Nice and early but unfortunately not a good restoration.

Thought so, heres some earlier pics...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Barndoor Panel in Brazil Reply with quote

Is it me or does that front bumper sit to far from the body Question
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I was noticing the bumper too. Whats up with it. The side mount on the bumper seem really far back where it mounts to the dog leg, almost like it is supposed to stick out that far. I'm not trying to tear it apart or anything, because it is still a very nice early BD Panel, just has a couple of weird things about it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

el roacho wrote:
Yeah I was noticing the bumper too. Whats up with it. The side mount on the bumper seem really far back where it mounts to the dog leg, almost like it is supposed to stick out that far. I'm not trying to tear it apart or anything, because it is still a very nice early BD Panel, just has a couple of weird things about it.

-Nate


The front bumper is typical of the stock bumper hangers produced for Buses from the Sao Paulo factory for post '57 Buses. Obviously an example of poor attention to detail.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Barndoor Panel in Brazil Reply with quote

vdubinit wrote:
Is it me or does that front bumper sit to far from the body Question


couldnt be any worse than back brackets on the front of a Hebmuller. Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are the 15 MPH South American spec bumper braces! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bubba wrote:
Those are the 15 MPH South American spec bumper braces! Very Happy


Yep an extra 2 inches of crumple zone Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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this is in Brazil to, 1950, I don't know if is the same...

another one in brazil (1951):

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It was for sale for 40k reais (+- 19k USD) some years ago...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Barndoor Panel in Brazil Reply with quote

Skim wrote:
vdubinit wrote:
Is it me or does that front bumper sit to far from the body Question


couldnt be any worse than back brackets on the front of a Hebmuller. Shocked

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Thats fucked up... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Early Barndoor Panel in Brazil Reply with quote

jjlux wrote:
Skim wrote:
vdubinit wrote:
Is it me or does that front bumper sit to far from the body Question


couldnt be any worse than back brackets on the front of a Hebmuller. Shocked

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Thats fucked up... Laughing


he wanted to make sure the hood wouldn't scrape the bumper when opening it Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That bumper looks right at home on there.....

I think this bus is in japan now
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn what they do flatten some bodys split bumper?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HenryMüller wrote:

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That bumper looks right at home on there.....

I think this bus is in japan now


Right O, me old China! That bloke is over in Japon!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Damn what they do flatten some bodys split bumper?


I think they got it from the guy who owns the red and white Heb. Wink
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