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65project Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2007 Posts: 311
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: 40horse and $1000.00 what would u do? |
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ok i have my stock motor which i want to keep and $1k to spend on it what would u do? |
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beetleboy58 Samba Conquestador
Joined: February 27, 2006 Posts: 1073
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Send me the grand,and keep the 40 horse
Seriously,if you are that desperate, buy a used running 1600 dual port.Sell the 40 horse,and read up on some mild bolt on mods.Thats about all you will get. |
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Wayland Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2005 Posts: 498 Location: Lasqueti Island B.C.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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What do you plan on doing with the car? |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9459 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I say..let's do it. What do you want done to the motor?
That is a lot of chicken wings. |
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Super1971 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2006 Posts: 121 Location: Tampa, Florida
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I work on Gunn Highway |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26307 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'll try to give you a more serious answer... I tend to answer a lot of 40HP/1200 questions here... Since you say you want to keep the engine, I'd recommend you look through some of these previous threads about building a good 40HP and see if that info helps you any. If you have a solid original 1965 engine right now, that's a good one to start with.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123839
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130374
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123839
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124701
Also, I went and looked at some of your previous posts and noticed no one ever answered your query about putting a bigger carb on your engine. Unless you build the engine to a big-bore 1385, the stock 28PICT carb is as good as you need, a bigger carb won't help you any. Even on my 1385 40HP, I've run a 28PICT just fine, although right now I'm running a 30PICT-1. Now, dual carbs would give a performance boost.... but it's very rare to find dual carb setups that fit 1200 engine.
-Andy |
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glandnut 40 horses of Fury
Joined: February 26, 2003 Posts: 1432 Location: J-ville, FL
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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glutamodo wrote: |
Now, dual carbs would give a performance boost.... but it's very rare to find dual carb setups that fit 1200 engine.
-Andy |
Yeah, I know about this. I've been looking for manifolds to run duals on my 40 horse for about 2 years... _________________ Looking for aluminum single port Kadron manifolds. |
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cochinito77 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2006 Posts: 233
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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ive tought about this too, what about for a 1300 engine? are they as reare to find????
Raf |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26307 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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1300 heads aren't very common, at least in the US, as they were only sold here one year. A lot of them were built up to 1500 or 1600 and either bored for the larger jugs or replaced. You can still find decent 1300 heads if you look though, and they'll bolt up to a 40HP engine. Or you could locate a set of 1300 dual port (twin port as they call them over in the UK) heads from overseas and use those, either method would allow you to put dual carbs onto a 40HP.
-Andy |
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cochinito77 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2006 Posts: 233
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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well mine is a 1300 SP its a 66 t-1
so what kind of carbc webers 34 ict's? kadrons? |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26307 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Cool... Well, dual Kadrons, at 40mm would be too much for a 1300. Weber 34ICT and those EMPI 34 EPC kits are about the only bolt-on kits I've seen recently for the SP motors. As of yet, I have heard nothing about if those EPC kits are any good (EMPI, Chinese produced though, something that may not be a good thing). I've worked with ICTs before, they are OK, that's probably how I'd go. |
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cochinito77 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2006 Posts: 233
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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now to save about 400 smackers without the wifey seeing me sneack it out...
what did johnny cash say "one piece at a time" |
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krusher Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2002 Posts: 7652 Location: europe
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: |
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full rebuild with a balance of the rotating mass, some head work by a pro.
header manifold to a single quiet pack, mabyr a cam with some more lift.
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cochinito77 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2006 Posts: 233
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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nah just carbs... |
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EZGZ Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2005 Posts: 923 Location: Loveland, Colorado
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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How about a few upgrades that are in parts you can use on anything.
Pointless ignition.
Full flow oil filter set up.
low restriction exhaust
new internal regulated 12v alternator if you have 12 volt now.
Maybe a new Dizzy
If you go inside the engine I wouldn't bother with balance or port and polish. But some new valve guides and new springs and general cleanup home style porting. New P&L and new bearings on rods and mains.
That 1300 was a good tourqe engine that you could run wide open and not hurt in stock form.
It's real hard to not try hop up tricks when your inside and spending money anyway but the little guy has lasted long and tested by time the way it is. _________________ 64 custom Ghia, 66 Bug, Sandrail, Barrien tub |
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cochinito77 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2006 Posts: 233
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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well i have a 009 dizzy, 12v system, low restriction exhaust, id like a Full flow oil filter set up, but i dont want to tear into it, and ive heard not gret things about the oil pump/filter thingy.
i dont do weird things i just want it to perform to "normal"standards.
i know im not going to win any beauty contests or races but a bit quicker is good.
thanks
ill doo all that stuff someday! when im rich and the babies are loooon gone!
Raf |
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krusher Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2002 Posts: 7652 Location: europe
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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cochinito77 wrote: |
well i have a 009 dizzy, 12v system, low restriction exhaust, id like a Full flow oil filter set up, but i dont want to tear into it, and ive heard not gret things about the oil pump/filter thingy.
i dont do weird things i just want it to perform to "normal"standards.
i know im not going to win any beauty contests or races but a bit quicker is good.
thanks
ill doo all that stuff someday! when im rich and the babies are loooon gone!
Raf |
Now i'm confused you said in your first post stock motor, are you now saying it has a 009 and a low ristriction system, or are these parts you allready have you could install?
And if you dont want to do anything internal you could have said that from the start.
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cochinito77 Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2006 Posts: 233
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
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ooooh my bad guy,
yeah i have a stock core enginge with peashooters and a 009 dizzy. with 12v system.
i have a low restriction system that i can add and i dont want to pull the engine apart because the PO rebuilt it, and its pretty good, but eventually i will change the CAM and cylinders and if i can find them reasonably priced some carbs...
Raf |
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uglyvw Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2007 Posts: 173 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: |
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keep the 40 horse and use it for what it is. if performance is what your after, you'll be miles ahead to just start w/ a 1600 dp and do the basic bolt on stuff. |
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cochinito77 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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its not really performance per se', just trying to make it prettier.
performance = big $$
this way ill only spend a few bucks to leave it the way i want.
Raf |
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