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miketyp3 Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 130 Location: Northampton UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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vihannes wrote: |
miketyp3 wrote: |
Chassis # Interior Body Owner
3160030xx F Teak ? Mr Nierman Germany
316021117 F Pigalle Pearl White Mike Dempster UK
316039380 F Teak Pearl White Juha Finland
316055289 F Pigalle Black K Kontio Finland
36606xxxx S Pigalle Pearl White "rustyfastback" USA
366076020 S Pigalle Pearl White Scrapped
366230670 S Pigalle Pearl White ?? Sold to T3D in 2001
366?????? S Pigalle Pearl White Phillip Bradfield USA
316?????? F Pigalle Pearl White "rustyfastback" USA
316?????? F Pigalle Pearl White F Quariant? Belgium RHD
Juha, Do you have some numbers for the Black/Pigalle Fastback yet?
Cheers,
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Black finnish pigalle fb: 316 055289
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rustyfastback Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Mike here is the vin on my '66 fastback 316136xxx. My squareback vin with extra digit 366066xxx. Thanks Mike for putting this list together.
Pete |
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riFph Samba Member
Joined: April 22, 2007 Posts: 65 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Found my new square through a friend last friday and it was delivered today. Missing a few parts but I am very excited to be part of this small club
Jeremy Frazier
Model owned - Squareback
Drive - LHD
Body Colour - Pearl White-ish
Interior - Pigalle
Chassis / Frame # 366 024 7xx
Build Date - August 1965 I believe
Initially Delivered to - ??
Currently in - San Diego California
Condition - Original.
Coloured interior Parts Present -
Steering Wheel, Steering Column, Indicator/Turn Signal Switch, Door cards, Front and Rear arm rests, Rear Seat upholstery and frames, Carpets not sure, Heater Remote Control Covers on Kick Panel on drivers side, Rear Parcel Shelf Cover and Door Pinch Welt (2 tone).
Black Interior Parts –
Gear shift boot, Hand/Emergency Brake Boot, and Horn Button.
A few things missing that will have to be replaced. I have a set of lowbacks for the front to replace the high backs that came with it. I think I am going to keep every thing that is red and whats missing will be replaced with black and red for a bit of contrast. The full Pigalle is too much for me, not to mention trying to find a new dash, I think black and red interior will look awesome. I am going to start a new thread with all my pics for the restore process. Im probably going to need a lot of encouragement....... |
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rustyfastback Samba Member
Joined: July 31, 2002 Posts: 839 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Rifph post some pics of your square please. I purchased another '66 pearl white squareback with pigalle interior last week. It was in Atlanta on craigslist. Here is an old pic when it was for sale in Tennessee
Vin # 366094xxx. It should be on the road soon once I replace the motor this week. |
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DONGKG The Araneta Boys
Joined: August 28, 2006 Posts: 5475 Location: Cainta, Rizal, Philippines, "A Certified Type 3 and Karmann Ghia Maniac"
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miketyp3 Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 130 Location: Northampton UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Great stuff!
We have 12 cars in the "club" now .
Thanks to everyone for the info you have posted (keep it coming ).
Rustyfastback, so you have 3 Pigalles now? - that's amazing!
I've been a bit busy of late, and haven't had much time to spend on the forum, and/or chasing up those leads.
I'll be going to T3D next weekend for their open day, so I'll ask Paul what he can remember about the Square he had - he might have leads to other cars as well.
Here's the updated information...
316003059 Fast Teak/ LHD mr. Nierman Germany
316021117 Fast Pigalle/ Pearl LHD Mike Dempster UK
3660247xx Square Pigalle/ Pearl LHD Jeremy Frazier USA
316039380 Fast Teak/ Pearl LHD Juha Finland
316055289 Fast Pigalle/Black LHD K Kontio Finland
366066xxx Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD "rustyfastback" USA
366094xxx Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD "rustyfastback" USA
316136xxx Fast Pigalle/Pearl LHD "rustyfastback" USA 366230670 Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD ex T3D ??
366676020 Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD Deceased USA
366xxxxxx Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD Phillip Bradfield USA
316xxxxxx Fast Pigalle/Pearl RHD F Quariant? Belgium
It's interesting to note that we still don't have 2 cars made in the same day. The closest pair would seem to be Jeremy's Square and my Fastback, which would seem to be made 3 - 4 days apart.
Jason,
If you need any pics or info for the site let me know.
I have the above info in Excel, I can shoot you a copy if it is any use.
Bye for now...
Mike.
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nicolas Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 68 Location: the landstrip called belgium
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: |
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ok here it comes
apparently this post is not for the faint at heart or the ones with short breath. be warned. the others bear with me...
ok i have a 66 fastback and it is a teak.
but it is not any longer in complete or near complete state...
i bought the car around 2000 and it was in a bad state. it was fully soaked in water so the carpets were gone. the front airintakes had no hoses on them for years (???) and it soaked the whole car. the front seat was also in very sorry state. it was ripped and torn and the bases of both seats were really in bad state.
it also had been repainted in orange peel seasand. probally a very rare option as well
so a full resto was in order.
keep in mind that i didn't know the rarety of the car.
so everything from the enteriour that was not in very good condition was trown out and put in the dustbin. a lot of the cloth seats were lost this way. the dash was kept as were the armrests. but these were in a very bad state. both of them had chips and cracks.
so fastforward a couple of years and we get to last years summer. the car has by than a new interiour with most of the salvageble parts except for the seatcovers and a brand new brown metallic paint.
it needed some parts to finish of the resto and that is when i met Bert3. after a couple of talks he asked me the condition of my dash (as they tend to be cracked at the speakergril)
so my reply was: yes yes it is nice, nice and brown and no colour fading or cracks.
brown??? he replies. do you know what you have?
that is when i got in the know of teak and pigalle type3's. that is oktober or november last year.
so i am quite pleased to have such a rare car. but on the other hand it is not in original order or state. and it wont be till i have the money and desire to repaint it back to seasand.
i might however be up to have the seats and interiour redone in original teak cloth and vinyl, but i have not a lot of parts left that i can use.
so if you are still with me at this point... i can say that it will probally be restored to its original state one day if i ever can collect all the missing pieces.
the stats of the car
i am probally the third owner
previous owner trashed it and made a ratlook out of it
first owner is a belgian guy that had his car registered in early december in kontich belgium
i purchased the car there from the second owner
the chassis number is 316 101 898
it has a couple of papers under the seat that says 16th november.
so it is late 65.
it had most of the same things that people said in the posts above.
no brown handbrakeboot, pedals or shifterrubber.
otherwise it had the look of the other teaks but in sorry state. it is also a seasand fastback without sunroof or other special options as far as i know.
thanks for reading
and if i can help replying questions i will be glad to help
(and if someone can help me that would be great as well)
regards
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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nicolas Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 68 Location: the landstrip called belgium
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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yes
every part that was not painted afterwards is seasand in its original colour. inside of the doors, glovebox, inside fenders. so i am pretty sure it was seasand to start with. never found any white paint |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Notched Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2003 Posts: 2365 Location: Pacific Northwest
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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That would be a pretty cool combo. _________________ Phillip Bradfield
Current stock: '57 Panel Bus, '63 Rat Notch, '64 Baja, '66 Variant, '67 Convertible Ghia, '68 Squareback, '69 Squareback, '69 Fastback
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miketyp3 Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2003 Posts: 130 Location: Northampton UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Nicolas,
It was great to meet you the other week at T3D and learn about your Teak.
I know of another Sea Sand Teak in Germany, which may be the the first one in the list below.
From what I know both interiors were available in 2 colours each;
Both in Pearl White and then Pigalle in Black + Teak in Sea Sand.
I also had the chance to speak to Francis Quariant at the T3D open day, he's the guy who owns the RHD Pigalle that came from the UK, and he also owns a LHD Pigalle as well!
It seems that Belgium is a real hot spot for Teak and Pigalle activity - this side of the Atlantic at least!
I'm hoping that I can get more details of his cars in the near future, as soon I hear back from him, but I've added it to my list
I've also added the Teak ebay squareback. I contacted the seller, but it seems he doesn't want to give any information away. Hopefully the next owner will be a little more helpful...
Here's the updated list - 15 cars confirmed so far
316003059 Fast Teak/ LHD Mr Nierman Germany
316021117 Fast Pigalle/ Pearl LHD Mike Dempster UK - ex Belgium
3660247xx Square Pigalle/ Pearl LHD Jeremy Frazier USA
316039380 Fast Teak/ Pearl LHD Juha Finland
316055289 Fast Pigalle/Black LHD K Kontio Finland
366066xxx Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD "rustyfastback" USA
366094xxx Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD "rustyfastback" USA
316101898 Fast Teak/Seasand LHD Nicolas Wilmus Belgium
316136xxx Fast Pigalle/Pearl LHD "rustyfastback" USA
366230670 Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD ex T3D ??
366676020 Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD Deceased USA
366xxxxxx Square Pigalle/Pearl LHD Phillip Bradfield USA
316xxxxxx Fast Pigalle/Pearl RHD Francis Quariant Belgium - ex UK
316xxxxxx Fast Pigalle/Pearl LHD Francis Quariant Belgium
366xxxxxx Square Teak/Pearl LHD on ebay USA
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Joerg Fischer Samba Member
Joined: February 28, 2007 Posts: 132 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:19 am Post subject: Any T34 so far? |
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EverettB wrote: |
Ooops, I see in the Type 3 color charts that Teak was an option for Sea Sand cars. Usually Teak is always with Pearl White cars. Very cool! |
Not over here, I have seen a lot more seesand/teak than perlweiß/teak-cars.
Did we have any T34 so far? They also look good with teak and (even better from my point of view) pigalle:
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BerT3 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2002 Posts: 1569 Location: Antwerp
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, don't be exagerated too quick
I know someone in Danmark who claims to have a teak one and a GREEN one !
I'll find out more but het gave me a detailed story about the car I might believe him
Future and photos will tell
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DONGKG The Araneta Boys
Joined: August 28, 2006 Posts: 5475 Location: Cainta, Rizal, Philippines, "A Certified Type 3 and Karmann Ghia Maniac"
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: Re: Any T34 so far? |
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Now, that Type 34 with pigalle interior is awesome. Very attractive. _________________ '67 KG Cabrio (Mickey) ;
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nicolas Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 68 Location: the landstrip called belgium
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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hey all i have been looking at a type3 manual from 69 and it says that indeed pigalle was only produced on a short term. i says that you could have a pigalle with pearl white body up to chassis number 316 140 226 (which is the last car from the line in december 65), but nothing is mentioned about the pigalle in black or even the teak with white or seasand color. did they forgot to mention it in the book???
and what strikes me also is the fact that you could order a seasand teak in 67... is this a different interieur? or is it just the brown parts replaced by black parts.
so many questions about these little oddities |
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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nicolas wrote: |
and what strikes me also is the fact that you could order a seasand teak in 67... is this a different interieur? or is it just the brown parts replaced by black parts. |
Yes, you could order Teak later but this was primarily brown cloth on the seats. The dash and carpet and other parts went back to their standard colors - black or otherwise. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Phat bug Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2004 Posts: 239 Location: Way Down Under
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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A buddy of mine has a RHD pigalle sunroof fastback, here in Australia. I'll try and get some pics and info. _________________ Click to view image |
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vihannes Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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New pigalle, pearl white fastback founded in Finland!
Details will be posted sooner or later... if new confused owner let me to do so ....
-J _________________ 66 Pearl White Sunroof FB (Teak)
This car is for sale! (14.10.2011=>) |
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60DoubleTurd Type 3 Contributor
Joined: May 24, 2003 Posts: 1925 Location: Ca
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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This is one of 3 pics that I have left of mine. This is my uncle and dad helping me prep it for paint in 88-89. Bought it complete for $600 in Fremont, CA running. All Pigalle was there but at that time I had no idea what it was. This was my first car and second VW. All red interior bit that could be removed and tossed were. Column and shaft were painted. Sold it in 93 to a friend who redid all again. She just sold it last year without me knowing. I am still trying to find it. Came from Canada originally. L87 Pigalle. Thats all I know. _________________ Frank
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66 L87 Variant Pigalle
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