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Like some guidance as to which replaceable parts (felt...rubber) get glued in. The only parts that "seemed" to be glued in was the upper felt above the sliding glass. That being said, I'm guessing some other parts were glued but the glue just vanished after 47 years.
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| Those are brackets that are supposed to brace the small vertical metal u-shaped bar that runs up and down the edge of the stationary glass. Relatively easy to install...The tip of the bar should slide into that slot on those brackets....then you just push/wedge it against the edge of the glass. (Dont forget the rubber) |
The clip goes UNDER the rubber track at the top?
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Do you leave the outer seal overhang or trim it at the level where it enters the door (arrows)?
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My .02 cents:
Wolfsburg West Vent Wing Glass to Frame seal is too thick. It will not fit right. They need to make the seal thinner. I used both 20 year old NOS West Coast Metric seal and WW seal and the thickness was identical. I did get the seal in and it stretched my vent wing frame. I took it out and ended up going the Rubber Electrical tape route and it worked great!
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Yeah...just got my vent window back from Ben's Auto Glass here in Baltimore after they had to re-do it. They said the WW seal was just too thick. First attempt had my frame being bent outward at the rear bottom part of the frame by over 1/4". And they had a device that stretched the material a lot too. Still too thick to work.
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kenshapiro2002
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Do you leave the outer seal overhang or trim it at the level where it enters the door (arrows)?
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I cut it about 2 inches past and then let a month or so pass then trimmed it closer to the end of the channel. |
I'm guessing it won't fit down into the door? You just leave it hanging out or bunched up a little?
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Do you leave the outer seal overhang or trim it at the level where it enters the door (arrows)?
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I cut it about 2 inches past and then let a month or so pass then trimmed it closer to the end of the channel. |
I'm guessing it won't fit down into the door? You just leave it hanging out or bunched up a little? |
I have done what he stated.
The last one I did I did not have to cut it at all after letting it settle for a while.
Make sure it is not stretched at all, otherwise you will cut it, the it will shrink up to be too short.
This goes for A LOT of seals... I am specifically thinking of you, Deluxe trim insert.
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kenshapiro2002
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Ahhhhhh...and I just received the Deluxe trim insert stuff too!
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Do you leave the outer seal overhang or trim it at the level where it enters the door (arrows)?
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I cut it about 2 inches past and then let a month or so pass then trimmed it closer to the end of the channel. |
I'm guessing it won't fit down into the door? You just leave it hanging out or bunched up a little? |
I have done what he stated.
The last one I did I did not have to cut it at all after letting it settle for a while.
Make sure it is not stretched at all, otherwise you will cut it, the it will shrink up to be too short.
This goes for A LOT of seals... I am specifically thinking of you, Deluxe trim insert. |
Very true Everett. I learned my lesson on some porsche seals so I always leave a little for shrinkage.I just this week cut the westy window seals back on the bus, they have been on for 6 months.
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So...nobody has answered my question from above, and I don't wanna start another thread on it, so I'll try one more time...
Which parts of the felt glass channel get glued into the window frame? Pretty sure the upper part, above the glass should be glued, and probably the vertical forward part. Is that correct? Any need to do the bottom channel?
Also, when I removed the lower felt from my window, the outer vertical lip was not there where the metal channel is screwed into the frame. On the WW piece, the vertical lip is there. Should I trim it away, or was my 47 year old felt modified some time in its history?
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Hello Ken
All sides were glued to the frame, I used hot air to separate them.
Yes, you have to cut the inner lip of the run channel where the guide bar is.
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Harald,
Thanks for the response. Mine had that little rubber block that yours shows in the second shot. What purpose does it serve? Any idea how (or why) to replicate it? I called WW and they told me I didn't need to cut the felt where the channel goes, but it sure seems like the right thing to do to me.
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I suggest it's a support for the metal, preventing it being bent down
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Makes sense. Mine WAS bent down at the corner even with the block in there. You've been a great help. Thanks and Happy New Year!
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It abuts and seals the vertical bar that holds the squeegee/anti-wind-and-whistle seal. |
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Now to find something to make one out of...
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Got the window all back together. Tried to reinstall it to the body. First, I put the window to body seal on the body, but that didn't allow me to get the window in very well. Next, tried putting the seal on the window, but that's not allowing in to fit correctly on the outside where it has to go behind and in front of the "lip" on the door itself. I guess the way to go about it is is now that I have the window inserted into the door, raise it up a few inches, secure the gasket to the door itself and then lower away? I'll give that a shot tomorrow.
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They are tricky. The center pillar always seems to grab the rubber at the square cutout, then the front one. You have to have the correct tip to the whole schmeer all the time. Then the outer lengthwise seal always gets trapped under the ledge. Sheesh.
It's best to have a savvy assistant that can see where it needs nitpicking and to help guide you in. You have to slap down on the top to drive it home sometimes. Put on your little nuts and washers first and start to bring it down. Then guide in all the philips and hex bolts. Test your angles of alignment to the opening before the final cinch. Do the final small nuts tightening last. |
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I'd still call it a one man show. Don't be shy about using some baby powder on that sill rubber- that way, you'll have a protective film if you have to use a plastic trim tool to pull the edge out smooth. The powder will also protect your fresh-ish paint. I had to trim the inner lip where it makes the bend around the window frame's "b" pillar.
The vent window frame seal is so thick because it relies on force- not glue. Also, with the thick material, you can trim it with a slight bevel for rain runoff (except under the swoop that most of you forgot to install anyway).
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