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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: 6 volt to 12 volt? Reply with quote

i am going to switch to 12 volt on my 64 beetle, i was asking if i have a 68 ca i just switch all my parts over for the conversion? if not what do i need?
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been wanting to do mine also, and so far i know you have to get a 12V wireing harnest , and then switch all your blubs to 12 volt, windshield wiper motors need to be switched to 12V, and relay switches, and i think sensors. But ill keep my eye on this thread to see if i missed anything.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to change the wiring harness. You need to change all bulbs(head lights) , starter , coil , anything electrical . the wiper motor you can either run a reducer or get a new rewound spool for 12V from WW. The flywheel has to be a 12v and tranny needs to be ground to clearence it. Also need a new generator or alt.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so i have pretty much everything i need out of my 68 to swap into my 64. the main reason for this is that my engine was origanaly a fuel injected model, i put a 12v electric fuelpump in and am running carbs. this is the engine i will put into the 64
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya sounds like it , you can use the flywheel , starter , dont forget the bushing. headlights , etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

any pics on wiring up the 12v gen/reg with the 6v harness?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another link to 6v 12v wiper ?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=229406
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12v regulator diagram

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

12V alt. diagram

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought this might help seen in another thread.

Polarizing generators

glutamodo wrote:
To polarize, you disconnect the wires that go between the regulator and the generator. Take off the fan belt. Then you take the hot wire (B+) and connect it to the D+ post on the generator, then connect the DF stud to ground. Your generator is now wired as a motor and will start to spin. It should spin fairly rapidly in the same direction as the engine goes. If it does not go in the correct direction, or just sits there sort of undecided, then you need grab the pulley to "help" it along until it does. You only need to let it "motor" like that for a few seconds - that's all it will need to build up the correct residual magnetism. Then hook up the regulator correctly and put the fan belt on. Done!

FYI - Here is a good web page about generators:

http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/gen.htm

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link to Motorola alt. diagram
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/schem/altreg.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How I converted Alfie to 12 volt
    Bought a new wiring harness (49 years old, ya know)
    All New 12 volt bulbs (Halogen headligts I CAN SEE!)
    Bought the new 12 volt wiper motor armature (bus boys)
    Bought and had rebuilt an old small diameter porsche generator (12 volt, sits on the generator stand, no modifications)
    Mounted new 12 volt regulator on fire wall, passenger side of motor
    oh yeah, new 12 volt battery
    Added a third brake light, using a VW backup light, with LED red bulb
    Kept 6 volt starter, spins fast, starts faster!

See photos <HERE>
Works like a champ.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One problem with using 6Vstarter on 12 system. It will slam into the flywheel very hard. Eventually, this may cause a problem. it's a fairly long eventually, but the likelyhood is there. If you are using a hard start relay don't forget to change that or it will fry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first 12 volt conversion, done in 80's, the starter lasted at least 10 years, before I sold the car. So final outcome unknown
I trust the old vw starter to give me lots of years of service, as it spins twice as fast, so starts even quicker. Less wear? Who's to know..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was fairly simple procedure when i switched my 63, heres all i did:
• new 12v battery
• alternator
• new ignition coil
• all new bulbs
• 6 to 12v wiper motor conversion

thats basically all you need, the old 6 volt wires are thicker than the 12 volt wires so theyre keepable. and i personally like running the old starter with the 12 volt juice it cranks over a whole lot faster.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if it has the regulator, you're
basically good to go on the 12v thing?

Im more concerned about hooking up
a small 12v stereo in it than anything.
(I need my music).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 6V starter will last a long time. If you do a lot os stop and start driving, the flywheel teeth will go before the starter. The last one I did lasted about 7 years. Then I just pulled the engine and put another used 6V flywheel on it. As far as I know, the second flywheel outlasted the rest of the car.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should answer your questions

http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/6v_12v.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some particulars not mentioned that I just found out as I'm swapping my 65' with the original 40 horse to 12V.

Use the original 6V fan hub, makes sense since the same fan is going back in the same shroud, the spacing needs to go back like it was. Don't use the 12V hub, it changes the fan depth.

I can't use my 40 horse generator pulley, the belt is out of alignment. I guess I have to use the later 12V pulley that is swept back towards the face of the generator.

You can't use the 6V generator strap, you need the 12V larger one.

Instead of putting the regulator under the rear seat, I took Glutamodo's advice and tapped another 5 X 1.0 hole to mount the regulator on the 12V generator. Wiring doesn't have to be pulled back through the firewall or spliced or cut at all. Looks great!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you can see it's debatable whether or not to change out the starter, but from what I've heard, if you take it easy when turning the key (ie- don't turn the key any longer than you have to) you can keep the wear in check.
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