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bbodie52 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Odd hubcaps |
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These knock-off style hubcaps were actually produced by my father, Warren M. Bodie in partnership with a friend, Carl Pfeiffer, of Reseda, CA. (at the start, my father lived in nearby Woodland Hills, CA, but in 1959 we moved to San Jose, CA). Marketed under the banner Bullock Accessories, Internationale, they were sold in several variations to fit several sports cars, including the Porsche and Mercedes. We had a set on our 1961 Corvair Monza coupe, and I had several examples hanging on the walls of my San Jose bedroom when I was about nine-ten years old).
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:03 am Post subject: Re: Odd hubcaps |
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KTPhil Samba Member
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Chickensoup Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: knockoffs |
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overrestored wrote: |
"temple of speed" was correct. There was an ad in an old Sports Car Graphic Magazine for these and several other styles of fake knock offs. They were called "Knok Offs" a purposeful mis-spelling of Knock Off. I may be wrong on the mis-spelling. I have the ad somewhere.
I am not certain of the manufacturer of the versions on my car. I am told that they are Empi. They came off of a special empi accessorized original Ghia that Lenny Copp had for sale 15 years ago. It had lots of factory accessories and Empi accessories all documented on the original bill of sale. Lenny's buyer did not want the Lemmerz chrome rims... the narrow white wall michelins... or these knock offs. So I bought these parts.
I don't have a close up shot of my wheels and hubcaps... but here is a fun shot of the car to compare the hubcaps. The knockoff hubcaps on my car consist of 7 parts on each wheel... a complicated affair.
-the spinner
-the mount which attaches to three of the lug nuts
-the 3 special washers which go between the mount and the lugnuts
-the outer chrome ring
-the inner chrome ring
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s.e.charles Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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vintage dude wrote: |
The caps you show are made by Bullock in the late 50's. They were a fake Rudge knockoff and were available for many different makes. The most common were the ones you show (VW / Porche) and Mercedes 190 ad was posted in blog.
I have a partial set and am looking for some. Are you interested in selling what you have? Please contact me if so.
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Q: for original Porsche application, were the knock-offs really (meaning mallet removable)?
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s.e.charles Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Richard Roth wrote: |
I think they meant "knock-offs".
Anyway the Porsche wheels pictured are "actual" Rudge knock-off wheels.
The items Templeofspeed is inquiring about are "simulated" knock-off "hubcaps". |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Odd hubcaps |
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To top that 1st post you should follow it up with scan of original literature! Do you have any those artifacts in your family collection?
You can easily set up a gallery here- following the prompts above on the tab marked as such. You've got a great update to this thread. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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bbodie52 Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2017 Posts: 2 Location: Hayesville, NC
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: Odd hubcaps |
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The knock off hubcaps originally shown in this thread were one variation manufactured by Bullock Accessories, International. My father, Warren M. Bodie formed a small company with a friend to manufacture simulated knock off hubcaps for Porsche, VW, Corvair, Mercedes, etc. At the time, we lived at 2257 Fairhill Lane, San Jose, 25, Calif. I remember his partner's address as 6510 Quakertown Ave, Woodland Hills, CA., which I believe was the mailing address used in the advertisements that were posted in automotive magazines.
I was only in elementary school at the time, about 8-10 years old. I used to have several samples of those knock off hubcaps hanging on my bedroom wall. |
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Herbie3Rivers Samba Member
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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The original post was from 2007. Best to pm templeofspeed. He last visited yesterday, so he's still around. _________________ We are striving for perfection, to make our cars run forever, if possible.
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vintage dude Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:26 am Post subject: |
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The caps you show are made by Bullock in the late 50's. They were a fake Rudge knockoff and were available for many different makes. The most common were the ones you show (VW / Porche) and Mercedes 190 ad was posted in blog.
I have a partial set and am looking for some. Are you interested in selling what you have? Please contact me if so.
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Can't help on the manufacturer, but I do have a story. In the spring '85 I attended a VW meet in northern Ohio, while I was working at VW of America HQ in Troy, MI. I saw this type of knock-off hubcaps from a swap vendor who was asking $80 for the set of 4. I already had my '64 Ghia which was sitting on a '70 chassis, so I knew those would not work on my 4-bolt wheels. I passed on the deal.
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Lids Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2004 Posts: 263 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: Old thread new knockoffs |
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Anybody got any info regarding these 4 bolt knockoffs?
They attach to the original EMPI spyders using the 4 screws.
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Richard Roth Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Mystery solved !
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templeofspeed Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2007 Posts: 279 Location: Central midwest
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53 0val wrote: |
Interesting? Quite the understatement. That car is probably the best example of a Beeskow in the world. |
I'll guess there's been some photochopping then..? |
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53 0val Samba Professor
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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templeofspeed wrote: |
The ones I posted the photo of attach using the stock clips. Thanks for confirming my old memories on the "Knok-offs". That Beeskow looks interesting, and the hubcaps seem appropriate.
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templeofspeed Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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The ones I posted the photo of attach using the stock clips. Thanks for confirming my old memories on the "Knok-offs". That Beeskow looks interesting, and the hubcaps seem appropriate.
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overrestored Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: knockoffs |
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"temple of speed" was correct. There was an ad in an old Sports Car Graphic Magazine for these and several other styles of fake knock offs. They were called "Knok Offs" a purposeful mis-spelling of Knock Off. I may be wrong on the mis-spelling. I have the ad somewhere.
I am not certain of the manufacturer of the versions on my car. I am told that they are Empi. They came off of a special empi accessorized original Ghia that Lenny Copp had for sale 15 years ago. It had lots of factory accessories and Empi accessories all documented on the original bill of sale. Lenny's buyer did not want the Lemmerz chrome rims... the narrow white wall michelins... or these knock offs. So I bought these parts.
I don't have a close up shot of my wheels and hubcaps... but here is a fun shot of the car to compare the hubcaps. The knockoff hubcaps on my car consist of 7 parts on each wheel... a complicated affair.
-the spinner
-the mount which attaches to three of the lug nuts
-the 3 special washers which go between the mount and the lugnuts
-the outer chrome ring
-the inner chrome ring
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