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Abscate
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| I always like to keep a set of cheap hose pinch off pliers, the plastic ones, in the mobile tool kit. You can use the vice grips to do the same thing, but sometimes you also need the vise grips to do the job they were designed to do. Also the pinch off pliers wont damage hoses, but vice grips might. |
Old 3/4 inch heater or Evap hose slipped over vice grips turn them into great , safe pinch off tools. On the road, wrap the jaws with 3 turns of electrical tape.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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| foodeater wrote: |
| I always like to keep a set of cheap hose pinch off pliers, the plastic ones, in the mobile tool kit. You can use the vice grips to do the same thing, but sometimes you also need the vise grips to do the job they were designed to do. Also the pinch off pliers wont damage hoses, but vice grips might. |
Old 3/4 inch heater or Evap hose slipped over vice grips turn them into great , safe pinch off tools. On the road, wrap the jaws with 3 turns of electrical tape. |
That works, but you still cant use the vice grips as vice grips, while your using them as pinch off pliers
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Abscate
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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| foodeater wrote: |
| I always like to keep a set of cheap hose pinch off pliers, the plastic ones, in the mobile tool kit. You can use the vice grips to do the same thing, but sometimes you also need the vise grips to do the job they were designed to do. Also the pinch off pliers wont damage hoses, but vice grips might. |
Old 3/4 inch heater or Evap hose slipped over vice grips turn them into great , safe pinch off tools. On the road, wrap the jaws with 3 turns of electrical tape. |
That works, but you still cant use the vice grips as vice grips, while your using them as pinch off pliers |
Yeah, but you can loosen your fuel line nut with the grips, then wrap and pinch off your fuel line with the grips. Once the line is free, you plug it with a golf tee, a M6 screw wrapped in tape, a pencil, a clean stick, agar gum, or a kids smallest finger. (Protect skin with vaseline - Im not an animal...)
It is a good exercise to think about doing jobs with minimalist tools in any event, because one day you get caught in someone's car in this dilemma - even if it isn't yours.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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Assembling my tool kit, it is a surprisingly large amount of tools!
My Wife asks why bother? My Brother will just call for help.
But alas, my Brother is a sailer who mostly still maintains his boat and it's diesel engine and transmission. He knows his way around a tool box as the need arises.
What's in this box?
Screwdrivers....... #3, #2, #1 Phillips four different size and length flatheads.
Sockets.... 3/8 drive. 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 22, 30mm, 1 1/16" deep for oil cooler nut, 1 13/16" for rear axle nut.
3/8 drive deep 10, 13, 17, 19mm
1/4 drice 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13mm
3/8 - 1/4 adapter
3/8 extensions
3/8 ratchet
1/4 ratchet
Wrenches.... 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 22mm
Vise grips..... needle nose, two flat
Pliers.... gas pliers, needle nose, channel lock, wire cutter
Ball Peen Hammer
Hack saw blade
1/2" Breaker Bar and deep 19mm socket for lug nuts
Dental pick
8mm triple square
Still a few items to slip in.......
All in all a kit that I wouldn't leave the house without, it makes me feel better that he has it driving an antique to Oregon in late Fall.
Dave
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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Wow some great thought went into that kit. Thanks.
I generally keep just a couple screwdrivers n pliers aboard full time. For big trips, I'll add a lot of tools from my shop into a satchel like that pictured. I've often tried to think of some way to mark the tools I like to bring such that I could just open each drawer in turn and grab any tool with a red dot for instance.
Nothing I've thought of would work as tools live a harsh life and no sticker or sharpie mark is going to last. Anybody think of a way to achieve this?
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Plasti-dip the handles with different colors
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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Once, before a community "work day" I chose to mark several of my well-used tools (3/8" ratchet, crescent
wrench, water pump pliers, hammer) with a solid wrapping of RED electrical tape... The tape is still in place
over ten years later, although just recently starting to slip off some of the more commonly used tools...
YMMV... 
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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here's a couple things i carry on a longer trip. can track down no-start issues very quickly, no guess work.
the fuel injector activator and a couple of noids. can pinpoint so many FI issues in a matter of minutes. the kit is quite small and i carry a hank of FI hose in it too.
and then my electrical diagnosis kit. top left is a Hall sensor tester; top right is just a simple long extension wire that i can run from the dash to the engine bay useful for truthing circuits; bottom left is the great test harness for powering the ECU, pump relays, and coil; and of course a meter.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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^^^ Sweet! 
I'll give you a dollar each for one of each...???
I just never get around to putting together a kit like this...  
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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i might have to make you the Hall tester just to be neighborly...
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^^^ SCORE!!! 
No pressure...
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In answering a question in the latest D.I.Y. thread it has gotten me thinking about what a newbie needs for tools, the basics tools and and then got my brain going down another road which I might post about.
So the search turned up this thread on Essential Tools so instead of starting another thread on tools I just wanted to post this wrench set from Harbor Freight if the newbie does not have a wrench set yet.
Basic Open/Closed Wrench Set with the sizes you actually have a need for, (except that 16mm-wth do you need that size?)
8mm, 9mm, 10mm, 11mm, 12mm, 13mm, 14mm, 15mm,
16mm, 17mm, 19mm, 21mm, 22mm, 24mm
$21.99 Harbor Freight Sku #68807.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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Mark Ward just carries a 13 mm wrench
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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here's a couple things i carry on a longer trip. can track down no-start issues very quickly, no guess work.
the fuel injector activator and a couple of noids. can pinpoint so many FI issues in a matter of minutes. the kit is quite small and i carry a hank of FI hose in it too.
and then my electrical diagnosis kit. top left is a Hall sensor tester; top right is just a simple long extension wire that i can run from the dash to the engine bay useful for truthing circuits; bottom left is the great test harness for powering the ECU, pump relays, and coil; and of course a meter.
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Scotch Locks on *diagnostic* kit? Wow.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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here's a couple things i carry on a longer trip. can track down no-start issues very quickly, no guess work.
the fuel injector activator and a couple of noids. can pinpoint so many FI issues in a matter of minutes. the kit is quite small and i carry a hank of FI hose in it too.
and then my electrical diagnosis kit. top left is a Hall sensor tester; top right is just a simple long extension wire that i can run from the dash to the engine bay useful for truthing circuits; bottom left is the great test harness for powering the ECU, pump relays, and coil; and of course a meter.
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Scotch Locks on *diagnostic* kit? Wow. |
I feel your pain , khughes
New rule.... anyone who sells a product with these or installs these has to put one on their genitals first
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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| DanHoug wrote: |
here's a couple things i carry on a longer trip. can track down no-start issues very quickly, no guess work.
the fuel injector activator and a couple of noids. can pinpoint so many FI issues in a matter of minutes. the kit is quite small and i carry a hank of FI hose in it too.
[img]https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1826565.jpg[/im
and then my electrical diagnosis kit. top left is a Hall sensor tester; top right is just a simple long extension wire that i can run from the dash to the engine bay useful for truthing circuits; bottom left is the great test harness for powering the ECU, pump relays, and coil; and of course a meter.
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Tough crowd!
No weather corrosion to worry about.
I looked at the photo and thought ..... "Nice! I'm jealous, I should make one of these, even put it in a nifty carry bag!"
Dave
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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| DanHoug wrote: |
here's a couple things i carry on a longer trip. can track down no-start issues very quickly, no guess work.
the fuel injector activator and a couple of noids. can pinpoint so many FI issues in a matter of minutes. the kit is quite small and i carry a hank of FI hose in it too.
[img]https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1826565.jpg[/im
and then my electrical diagnosis kit. top left is a Hall sensor tester; top right is just a simple long extension wire that i can run from the dash to the engine bay useful for truthing circuits; bottom left is the great test harness for powering the ECU, pump relays, and coil; and of course a meter.
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Scotch Locks on *diagnostic* kit? Wow. |
Tough crowd!
No weather corrosion to worry about.
I looked at the photo and thought ..... "Nice! I'm jealous, I should make one of these, even put it in a nifty carry bag!"
Dave |
Well, when half the gremlins you troubleshoot end up being PO's scotchlocks...
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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but but but! in my defense, A. they are true Scotchlocks which have a higher reliability. and B. who the heck else carries an injector buzz box?!! if i find a dead injector and it just doesn't make sense, all the leads are paralleled and can quickly be swapped.
all y'all are just jealous... "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful" or some such L'Oreal wisdom!
i'll see you on the road and you can be glad when a ratty Titan Red westy pulls up to your stalled sorry van!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:38 am Post subject: Re: Essential Tool List |
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| Mark Ward just carries a 13 mm wrench |
Mark Ward just yells at the van to get going.
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