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Thanks chaps.
Despite all of the new info', none of those codes match the bulk of my VW lenses either. It's amazing how many different styles there were. 
I'll keep digging for local model & dating info'.
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USMCord1
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I was told these were hand poured, there are no markings on them. Any idea what they go to? They are identical so don't know if 2 lefts or rights or it doesn't matter. Thanks!
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EverettB 
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Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55 |
Excellent list, I have use it to identify lenses many times.
How about Hella but no VW symbol and 26-25484 along the bottom edge?
Porsche 356?
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janerick3
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To add to the confusion...
Here is a "26-25484" lens with the VW logo and "E1.0671.01" at the bottom. I've seen this with generic Hella 60370 lenses, but never with a VW lens.
My educated guess is these 25484 lenses with just the Hella logo were used on early 1964 model VWs with the 1958-63 style turn signals, license plate light and the 1955 headlight design.
Everett, can you check your lens for evidence of the "E1" numbers being filled in on the "26-25484" mold?
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EverettB
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| Everett, can you check your lens for evidence of the "E1" numbers being filled in on the "26-25484" mold? |
On my lens I don't see any sort of faintness in the E1 area that would lead me to believe a filled-in E1 mold was used.
I think that is what you are asking?
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janerick3
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Yes
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Your comment made me think of something and I realized the Hella lens I posted above in the same one that was used on my German-delivery, USA spec. 1964 13-Window Bus.
So 1964 sounds right.
By 1955 headlight design, do you mean the lens?
It had the same headlight buckets as a normal 60s Bus but it took me quite a while to find a nice lens as one was replaced from an old accident.
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janerick3
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Your comment made me think of something and I realized the Hella lens I posted above in the same one that was used on my German-delivery, USA spec. 1964 13-Window Bus.
So 1964 sounds right.
By 1955 headlight design, do you mean the lens?
It had the same headlight buckets as a normal 60s Bus but it took me quite a while to find a nice lens as one was replaced from an old accident. |
The sealed-beam buckets used between ~Feb 1955 and ~Nov 1963 were all the same basic design, with the bail-type tension spring.
The introduction of the 60370-3/-03 ("SB19 SB20 SB21") universal lens happened at the same time as the redesigned sealed-beam bucket w/the adjuster screws at 1 and 7 o'clock was introduced in Nov/Dec 1963.
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Your comment made me think of something and I realized the Hella lens I posted above in the same one that was used on my German-delivery, USA spec. 1964 13-Window Bus.
So 1964 sounds right.
By 1955 headlight design, do you mean the lens?
It had the same headlight buckets as a normal 60s Bus but it took me quite a while to find a nice lens as one was replaced from an old accident. |
The sealed-beam buckets used between ~Feb 1955 and ~Nov 1963 were all the same basic design, with the bail-type tension spring.
The introduction of the 60370-3/-03 ("SB19 SB20 SB21") universal lens happened at the same time as the redesigned sealed-beam bucket w/the adjuster screws at 1 and 7 o'clock was introduced in Nov/Dec 1963. |
My 5/64 Bus had an "A" (1964) headlight bucket on the driver's side that I am sure was original. Pic:
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This subject came up in another topic and the person was referred here so I thought I would added some pics I had from my '63.
(Bus but same lenses)
This lens, listed on page 1:
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"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
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For 1956...
Does anyone know when the cutoff is from "E" to "no E"?
Info below is from Page 1
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
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No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
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janerick3
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The original lens that goes with the bucket on my avatar has no vestigial oval and no "E" number, so changeover took place after December 1955.
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Do the E1’s all have the Hella logo on top?
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I have a matching pair of RHD pre 1967 Beetle headlight lenses. They are Hella marked with the number 900138 and were made in Australia. Any idea what years these are for please?
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Any info on this lens? I have been searching the different forums but no luck, except for possible barndoor bus or Porsche??
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janerick3
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Any info on this lens? I have been searching the different forums but no luck, except for possible barndoor bus or Porsche??
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First time I've seen a Bosch lens for a sealed-beam assembly.
Peel back the rubber gasket and look for a date code cast into the lip at 12 o'clock.
The block letter logo suggests it's post-1959, though it may be older. The part number at the bottom is pre-1964.
French market, used with a yellow, fluted inner (7-inch) lens?
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My Sept 60 car made in Australia has Bosch lenses that have the large VW logo at the top and at the base has "1029' in the glass. They 'look' original?
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First time I've seen a Bosch lens for a sealed-beam assembly.
Peel back the rubber gasket and look for a date code cast into the lip at 12 o'clock.
The block letter logo suggests it's post-1959, though it may be older. The part number at the bottom is pre-1964.
French market, used with a yellow, fluted inner (7-inch) lens?[/quote]
The numbers are so small, I had to zoom in with my iPad just to see them
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janerick3
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635 = 3rd quarter 1976. Previous date codes have been x'd out.
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