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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Rag year differences Reply with quote

Are there any differences that would define a 63 rag sunroof from a 57? I know there are "three folds" but when did those changes happen?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe that from 57 on they were the same. 56 is still 2-fold but has square
rear corners and round fronts and 55 and earlier is 3-fold.
not exactly sure about the handles since i've only owned a 56 and 55 but 55 and earlier are ribbed and 56 on are not. not sure if there are any more changes to it after 56.

someone will chime in if i'm missing something Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smack wrote:
i believe that from 57 on they were the same. 56 is still 2-fold but has square
rear corners and round fronts and 55 and earlier is 3-fold.
not exactly sure about the handles since i've only owned a 56 and 55 but 55 and earlier are ribbed and 56 on are not. not sure if there are any more changes to it after 56.

someone will chime in if i'm missing something Smile
You got it old boy.. I've only owned three folds my self. Mine is a Golde handle car. But I have seen a non Golde handle 55 3fold.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smack wrote:
i believe that from 57 on they were the same. 56 is still 2-fold but has square
rear corners and round fronts and 55 and earlier is 3-fold.
not exactly sure about the handles since i've only owned a 56 and 55 but 55 and earlier are ribbed and 56 on are not. not sure if there are any more changes to it after 56.

someone will chime in if i'm missing something Smile


From this thread:
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V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:
Yes.

3 folds have a crease/groove down the middle like the door handle and window winder like this:

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3 Fold Ragtop handles are like finding hen's teeth - believe me, I need one!

2 folds have a solid handle, like the door handle and the window winder like this:

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Eventually, they went to a folding type handle like this:

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- 55/3 folds have the grooved handle.
56 - 62 have a solid handle
In 63 they went to a folding handle (deluxe only).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's right, i have seen that folding handle before and completely forgot about it.

hey bucket was that non golde on a late 55' perhaps?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:

Eventually, they went to a folding type handle like this:

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- 55/3 folds have the grooved handle.
56 - ?? have a solid handle
?? - 63? they eventually went to a folding handle.


The folding handle is a 1963-only part
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

smack wrote:
that's right, i have seen that folding handle before and completely forgot about it.

hey bucket was that non golde on a late 55' perhaps?
No I own a late 55 with a golde. The car without the golde is an early 55. 55's are bastrds...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RareAir wrote:
The folding handle is a 1963-only part


Thanks for filling in the missing link. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thebucket wrote:
No I own a late 55 with a golde. The car without the golde is an early 55. 55's are bastrds...

funny i have an early u.s. 55 and it has a ribbed golde on it. and it's definitely original to the car.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RareAir wrote:
V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:

Eventually, they went to a folding type handle like this:

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- 55/3 folds have the grooved handle.
56 - ?? have a solid handle
?? - 63? they eventually went to a folding handle.


The folding handle is a 1963-only part


Can u put a non folding golde handle on a '63? Like if you had a '63 clip and wanted to put in an earlier car could you change out the handle and have a correct looking rag?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RareAir wrote:
V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:

Eventually, they went to a folding type handle like this:

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- 55/3 folds have the grooved handle.
56 - ?? have a solid handle
?? - 63? they eventually went to a folding handle.


The folding handle is a 1963-only part


you mean deluxe of course?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:
RareAir wrote:
V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:

Eventually, they went to a folding type handle like this:

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- 55/3 folds have the grooved handle.
56 - ?? have a solid handle
?? - 63? they eventually went to a folding handle.


The folding handle is a 1963-only part


you mean deluxe of course?


yup!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MargaritaVillain wrote:
Can u put a non folding golde handle on a '63? Like if you had a '63 clip and wanted to put in an earlier car could you change out the handle and have a correct looking rag?


I don't see why not, the folding bit doesn't really serve a function for opening/closing the roof IIRC.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David wrote:
MargaritaVillain wrote:
Can u put a non folding golde handle on a '63? Like if you had a '63 clip and wanted to put in an earlier car could you change out the handle and have a correct looking rag?


I don't see why not, the folding bit doesn't really serve a function for opening/closing the roof IIRC.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: rag top Reply with quote

would it look correct if i put the slide rag from my crashed 1960 on to my 1956 oval. if not whats the difference
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: rag top Reply with quote

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would it look correct if i put the slide rag from my crashed 1960 on to my 1956 oval. if not whats the difference


Read this, Brother...http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=280914&highlight=rag+differences
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 56 handle doesn't have the golde script on it. Does that mean it is aftermarket?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 56 has the golde script. so i think your handle could be aftermarket.

i got a question too.

theres a black plate (i donĀ“t know how it is told correct) above the handle. mine is a original ragtop-standard 56. is this right for a standard or did golde use the chromed plate at standards as well?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thebucket wrote:
smack wrote:
that's right, i have seen that folding handle before and completely forgot about it.

hey bucket was that non golde on a late 55' perhaps?
No I own a late 55 with a golde. The car without the golde is an early 55. 55's are bastrds...


I also own a late 1955 (June of '55) Deluxe Sunroof that has never been restored and it has the grooved "Golde" handle on it's 3-fold sunroof mechanism.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Golde 3-fold ragtop:

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Sitting in a 54 oval, known history since 57, then the ragtop was there.

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