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jazzed Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 628 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: '61 Deluxe Seat Covers |
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Anyone know where I can pick up some blue/grey seat covers? TMI apparently doesn't make them and Wolfsburg West couldn't answer my question, as they don't carry them. I need a full set, including a full-size middle seat. |
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: '61 Deluxe Seat Covers |
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jazzed wrote: |
Anyone know where I can pick up some blue/grey seat covers? TMI apparently doesn't make them and Wolfsburg West couldn't answer my question, as they don't carry them. I need a full set, including a full-size middle seat. |
If you mean aero-papyrus, good luck. |
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jazzed Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2002 Posts: 628 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, not aero papyrus. Blue/grey as shown in the technical section of this site. |
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Dave24 Samba Hack Purist
Joined: April 14, 2004 Posts: 7442 Location: Hablamos Ingles, So. Cal.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Try WCCR (lenny). He has alot of the no-can-find materials made for him. |
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1OLD61BUS Samba Member
Joined: April 22, 2006 Posts: 105 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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those places would have been the first places I tried. I would put a wanted ad out in the classifieds and see who else may know something.
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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I would like some too. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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FlusteredBust Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2007 Posts: 217 Location: St. Pete, FL
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have been hunting for vinyl fabrics for intent on re-doing my blue grey interior. (what's there is either not original or pretty trashed). I am going to use panels from Clara and do the panel fabrication myself. For the seats, I have pretty good covers (non-original) to work from, and I think my wife can sew them. If not, there are plenty of upholstery shops in the phone book.
One thing I noticed is that where the fabric has been protected from the elements, the lighter color fabric is a light blue grey. It tends to yellow over the years giving it an almost green tint.
To match the heat pleated charcoal fabric on the panels I found this. I have samples and side by side it's almost extact. For the panels I will have to carefully remove the foam backing, but that looks pretty simple from the sample. There is also a med. grey pleated foam backed fabric for the seat tops. This fabric also comes unpleated so that seat sides, backs and panel bottoms can be matched.
http://www.garysupholstery.com/foamback.html
As for welting, Gary's has a good selection there too...
http://www.garysupholstery.com/weltcord-premade.html
What I have had difficulty locating is the blue grey diamond patterned vinyl used in the center of the panels. The closest I have found is this...
http://www.denverfabrics.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/23000/23042_85-600.jpg
The pattern is too small and the silver could be more blue grey. I may punt and use the smooth med. grey vinyl from above on the panels. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69830 Location: Phoenix Metro
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Lenny sells it, although I don't know if it is an EXACT match.
Blue/Grey is one of the worst material for fading so most people don't even know what it looked like originally. |
I can tell by the deep dark tucked in areas of my middle seat. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69830 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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jeremyrockjock wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Lenny sells it, although I don't know if it is an EXACT match.
Blue/Grey is one of the worst material for fading so most people don't even know what it looked like originally. |
I can tell by the deep dark tucked in areas of my middle seat. |
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stephenmullens Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2005 Posts: 1927 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Lenny sells it, although I don't know if it is an EXACT match.
Blue/Grey is one of the worst material for fading so most people don't even know what it looked like originally. |
That's what I've seen. I have one NOS panel and none of the used originals I have come across match it..all are color changed.
I've got two early '61 deluxe models and have been looking for this interior myself for two years. It's a tough interior to match as the embossed checker pattern is quite unique, let alone the colors. Lenny's is the closest thing I've seen and it's not exact in either color or pattern. I wouldn't use it if I was attempting to replicate the real deal, but if "close" was good enough it's the one I would go with of everything I've seen.
If a person was ambitious and/or obsessed enough they could have the stuff manufactured to exact spec. The set up costs and initial run quantities required are very expensive. I believe about a year ago Doug Denlinger inquired of this forum if there was enough interest in the vinyl to justify the large investment and there was not. |
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FlusteredBust Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2007 Posts: 217 Location: St. Pete, FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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jeremyrockjock wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Lenny sells it, although I don't know if it is an EXACT match.
Blue/Grey is one of the worst material for fading so most people don't even know what it looked like originally. |
I can tell by the deep dark tucked in areas of my middle seat. |
Can you post a picture of your most unfaded original for color matching purposes? Thanks. It would be nice to have a photograph of that NOS panel StephenMullens has too, so it can be compared to Lenny's work here...
http://www.classicvws.com/59type-2-int.htm
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12401
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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what about the humpseat front seat?
AFAIK, TMI/WW don't offer the front seat cover for the humpseat. My April 61 takes the basalt interior, and has a humpseat. The earlier flat seat covers wouldn't fit right. And the padding is differnt too..
A few years ago I re-did the bottom of the seat with padding and upholstery off the backseat of a '77 bus... more comfy than spring sticking out, cheaper than buying new, but not correct material. But better than shelling out hundreds for not the correct stuff, doesn't fit right, either. _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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stephenmullens Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2005 Posts: 1927 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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FlusteredBust wrote: |
jeremyrockjock wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Lenny sells it, although I don't know if it is an EXACT match.
Blue/Grey is one of the worst material for fading so most people don't even know what it looked like originally. |
I can tell by the deep dark tucked in areas of my middle seat. |
Can you post a picture of your most unfaded original for color matching purposes? Thanks. It would be nice to have a photograph of that NOS panel StephenMullens has too, so it can be compared to Lenny's work here...
http://www.classicvws.com/59type-2-int.htm |
I'll shoot and post some pics of the nos panel here this weekend. |
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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stephenmullens wrote: |
FlusteredBust wrote: |
jeremyrockjock wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Lenny sells it, although I don't know if it is an EXACT match.
Blue/Grey is one of the worst material for fading so most people don't even know what it looked like originally. |
I can tell by the deep dark tucked in areas of my middle seat. |
Can you post a picture of your most unfaded original for color matching purposes? Thanks. It would be nice to have a photograph of that NOS panel StephenMullens has too, so it can be compared to Lenny's work here...
http://www.classicvws.com/59type-2-int.htm |
I'll shoot and post some pics of the nos panel here this weekend. |
I will try too. _________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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Mikee Samba A.D.D. Boy
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 3510 Location: Puyallup WA
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jeremy how are those panels working out i sold ya? _________________
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stephenmullens Samba Member
Joined: January 13, 2005 Posts: 1927 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Here's some pics...sorry the color is off...
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FlusteredBust Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2007 Posts: 217 Location: St. Pete, FL
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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stephenmullens wrote: |
Here's some pics...sorry the color is off...
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Thanks for taking those photos. How off do you think the colors are? They look very close to my best originals.
If we assume the colors on that NOS panel are pretty true, I think Lenny's dark grey isn't dark enough. The dark grey on the NOS panel is more charcoal than a medium grey, and even the diamond stamped vinyl is a bit darker than Lenny's.
Lenny's...
The one conclusion I can draw, it will be damn near impossible to replicate the blue grey interior without making some concessions, and Lenny's version is stunning. |
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jeremyrockjock Samba Towbar Builder
Joined: January 01, 2002 Posts: 5008 Location: Richmond, Verjinya
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Why buy what you can build.
Step away from the fiberglass and no one gets hurt!! |
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