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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Correct Driver's side Mirror Reply with quote

Which is the correct driver's side mirror for a 64 AMERICAN beetle?
The Round or oval mirror?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has a round one. Looks original. The door is original paint.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: mirror Reply with quote

Found this in the archives...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/type1.php

Scroll to your year.

Shows pics of a round mirror. But then another brochure shows the oblonged one. Note: one is a ghia. Guess you could go either way?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either one would be correct.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Round... Reply with quote

My 64 has a round mirror...but I've seen 'em with oblong too. Maybe they had both as options back then?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KantDriveFast wrote:
Either one would be correct.


x2, both are correct, depended on the dealer and what they wanted to put on the car.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beetles were shipped to the USA without exterior mirrors. VWoA and / or the local dealer sourced them from different manufactures and therefore there was 4-5 round mirors and 2-3 pear shaped mirrors. Any would be correct, use the one that you like.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an interesting image (in keeping with discrepancies you can pick out in VW's advertising literature....) It's obviously supposed to be a pre-'65 (as evidenced by the wipers and sun visors), but that antenna mount was not used until the 1967 model. Likewise, while it's true either mirror is ok, all of the pre-'66 cars I have owned and most pre-'66s I've seen have had round mirrors - not the Hagus pear. On the other hand, both of my '67s sported the Hagus pear (as shown in the image below), and most of the other '67s I've seen have been pear shaped. Round mirrors "look" proper on earlier cars, whereas, pears look proper on '67 (to me anyway). However, I suppose nobody can fault you for putting a pear mirror on a '64. Now a pear mirror on an oval-window bug.... Rolling Eyes Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even stranger, here's the mirrors page from the 62 accessories brochure:
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And here's the one from the 64 accessories brochure:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The round "101" mirror (pictured on the left) is what's on my '65 and my '60 and '63 have similar round mirrors.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Correct outside mirror Reply with quote

Hi, I'm trying to find a round mirror for my 1958 beetle that I purchased (it was owned by two little old ladies who put 23,000 miles on it and never left the town they bought it in in 49 years) and have been frustrated in finding one that you can actually adjust up and down so you are not looking at the road or the sky. I broke the one I got from a mailorder company trying to adjust. Does anyone know where I can get a quality round mirror?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bug had a pear shaped mirror, but the "101" arm, generally used only with round mirrors. I'm pretty sure it's the original setup though, because I have seen a few with the same mirror setup. (currently though i have 2 round mirrors)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Wow! You are all great! Reply with quote

Thanks for the awesome detailed response!
I think I am going to go with the round mirror after all.
Only problem, I stripped the top nut!
Will have to get another.

Then again, the oval mirror doesn't have a "top nut"


Hmmmmmmmm . . . .

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was looking into the repro of the albert swanneck style.. anyone know the history on them, m curious.. Question
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: Correct outside mirror Reply with quote

melj wrote:
Hi, I'm trying to find a round mirror for my 1958 beetle that I purchased (it was owned by two little old ladies who put 23,000 miles on it and never left the town they bought it in in 49 years) and have been frustrated in finding one that you can actually adjust up and down so you are not looking at the road or the sky. I broke the one I got from a mailorder company trying to adjust. Does anyone know where I can get a quality round mirror?



i have a 65 with some after market mirrors. i want to get the Og style like in the pics there my question is what do i have to do get those mirrors to fit in the hinge? replace the complete hinge? if so where do i get hem from?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Correct outside mirror Reply with quote

vtech wrote:

i have a 65 with some after market mirrors. i want to get the Og style like in the pics there my question is what do i have to do get those mirrors to fit in the hinge? replace the complete hinge? if so where do i get hem from?


Need pics of the aftermarket ones you speak of. Do they mount on the hinge or elsewhere? The original style mirror (which I would say is the round 101 mirror) requires a hinge pin with a threaded receiver on top, to which the mirror is attached. I believe the hinge pin is the same for either mirror (round 101 or Hagus pear), though.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the mirrors i have nnow are bolted to the door. like this one

http://www.cip1.ca/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=C13%2D4590
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my Shocked ! OK, so you'll need the proper hinge pins for mirrors AND some body filler Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vtech wrote:
the mirrors i have nnow are bolted to the door. like this one

http://www.cip1.ca/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=C13%2D4590

ALOT of people did this crap. They would drill holes and put them on. Dont use body filler to fill those holes. It will just fall through eventually. Weld them or braze shut.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the day, the cars did not come with mirrors from the factory.
They were installed by the dealer. And it depended on which part of the country you were in, and where the dealer got the mirrors from.
Different distributors might supply different mirrors. There were several sources of outside mirrors for VW's, that were distributed by VWoA.
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