Correct points and condens. for Bosch 019?

[EMPIImp69]

Does anyone have the part# for the Bosch points and condensor for the Bosch 019 distributor? The points and condens. for the 019 aren't the same as the stock 71-72 type 1 vacumm advance models are they? thanks
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[Frederik]

I have a old 019 (or actually VJ4 BR25) distributor I'm planning to use in the future and was verry happy to find NOS Bosch distributor parts at a lokal military surplus store. NOS blue coil in box (not german made but spain), condenser, rotor and a bunch of points.. Only that they are 1 237 013 000 (I thought this were for the 019) but I now see that I must have got it wrong!?
They were only 3.80$ à piece so I can live with it..

[Frederik]

..or maybe they fit my Porsche 912 -66?

[Glenn]

VJ4BR25 is fhd same as a 019, not a 019.

condenser for a BR25 is a 02 006 and for a 019 is a 02 170. The 66 Porsche 912 also used a 02 006, same as the BR25.
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[Frederik]

The condenser I bought is marked 1 237 330 055
And the points 1 237 013 000

And sorry I got it mixed up the vj4br25 is more like the "010"? (not the same, but I thought they shared same parts and curve?)

[Glenn]

Weird looking blue coil. The high tension post looks pretty long.

The points are 01 001 points and will fit the 019, 010 and BR25. Personally I like to use the 01 016 points, they are identical but have a stronger spring and won't float as easily as the 01 001. The 01 016 are for a 356 Porsche.

The condenser is for a 019, VJ4BR8 and VJU4BR8. It can be used on the VJ4BR25 and 010 is you omit the original condenser bracket.
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[Frederik]

That is what I thought about the coil as well. I bought one that have the same weird long conection last year as well, that one made in germany also from the swedish army surplus (been laying in storage for decades). I wonder if it can be some extra moisture/dust protection?
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I mixed up the BR25 with BR8 so the condenser was a miss! But I got it for free

[Glenn]

Condensers have a electrolytic compound inside and when they get old it can dry out and fail.

I test every NOS condenser I get and have about a 25% failure rate.

Strangely enough, a used condenser will not dry out. The one on my 010 is 50 years old and i've put over 100k on it myself.

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[Frederik]

Good to know. Thank you for the help!

[Frederik]

I feel that I'm running OT but I checked my other NOS blue coil and it's marked
0 221 102 003. I can hardly find any info about it. What was it for? Any good in a vw?

[62ItalianRagtop]

Which is correct bosch code for 019 screamer points please ?
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[Glenn]

01 016 points
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[62ItalianRagtop]

So this ones are not correct ?
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[Glenn]

Those are for a 205K that was used on 66-67 vacuum only distributors.

01 001 points which is what they came with from the factory.

01 016 points which have a stronger spring and are for a 912

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[Frederik]

Bosch cross referense and replacement parts list can be tricky. But the 1237013000 points (thats shown in the last picture) and whats correct for Porsche 356/912 are in fact what transfers to 01001 points. The 01016 points, or in Europe 1237013060, were never for Porsche 356/912 but for early 911. They have a stronger spring, but that is only a good thing if you are over 6000rpm. Under that you’re only going to wear them out premature. I’m using the original 1237013000/001 points in my 912 and see no problem. If Porsche had felt that the 060 points would have been better suited for a 356/912 they would for sure have had them listed instead.

The right answer would be: originaly ”000” points but if you are planning to use the 019 with a high rew engine ”060” point might be better.

[Glenn]

Bosch no longer makes either the 01 001 or the 01 016 points. The best replacement is the Bremi 616 602 226 01 which is a Porsche 911. I put over 20,000 miles on a set of 01 016 points with a CDI system. The trick it to keep the cam greased.

01001 - 1 237 013 000
Porsche 356/912 and Porsche 911 64-65

01016 - 1 237 013 060
Porsche 911 64-68

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[Frederik]

That number for the Bremi points is the old Porsche part number for the 356/ 912 and early 911 Bosch 01001 points (but also VW and all the others). I suspect they are the same as Bremi 241003 aka 1003, but it sounds better for Bremi with Porsche points

[evanfrucht]

Bringing up this old thread here... in dire need of a lead.


WHAT ARE CURRENTLY THE BEST 010/019 POINTS in production or at least available?

Does anyone have a solid link where to get the Bremi ones? Perhaps they just don't carry them many places?

Wolfsburg West apparently makes them, or has someone make them them for them, whatever... What is the consensus as far as the quality of the WW ones?

Someone school me
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