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visibleink Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1668 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Wow, you'd think ACVWs were unreliable. _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
<-- Helga, she slammed her dub in '53 and adjusted valves with her teeth |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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...or have an inordinately high number of bonehead owner/mechanics. |
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knox Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Savannah, ga
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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had so many differnt cars over the years that things always seem to go wrong for the first month or so.
broken clutch cable
broken accelerator cable
shifter busching
hinge broke on throttle pedal
bad points
spilt intake boot= rod knock
stuck oil pressure relief valve
fan belt
burnt clutch
busted pressure plate
broken throw out bearing shaft
siezed caliper
blown wheel cylinder,
burnt exhaust valve
dry wheel bearing
flat tires
emulsion jet in carb fell out
i'm sure there are more but these are some of the memoerable ones _________________ peace , love and VW grease
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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visibleink wrote: |
Wow, you'd think ACVWs were unreliable. |
I think in most cases it wasn't the car that was unreliable it was the owner. I would hope most of us would admit to neglicting basic maintanence needs or not throughly going over a new to us old VW with a fine tooth comb. Like I mentioned, my three beauties that caused me to break down were seriously preventable.
Just some observations, it is quite striking how many cable failures (clutch or accelerator) are listed here. It seems cables, coils, points and fuel pumps are the top three causes. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Decades of VW and VW parts restoration experience.
The Samba member since 2004.
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**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
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dr.bones Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2007 Posts: 105 Location: jasper,Ga
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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hi you forgot fire!!!!!!! |
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Yellowbeard Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2006 Posts: 2288 Location: At large again...
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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dr.bones wrote: |
hi you forgot fire!!!!!!! |
I wouldn't rate fire as one of the top ten reasons. The first thing I do when buying a new VW is remove the PO-installed fuel filter from the engine compartment. _________________
Lohe wrote: |
Thanks. Thread went from me not being able to understand what Ipis was saying because English is obviously not his first language to me not being able to understand it because English is my first language |
Fuel pumps galore:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=845378 |
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Goldar's VW Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Marietta, GA
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: |
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melville wrote: |
10. Some miscreant copulating with my fuel filler, pissing in my gas tank. Took a tank drain and several fuel filters to straighten that one out.
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Ok, that Stant locking gas cap just got moved up the priority list...
I already have a locking decklid because:
-Some miscreant messing with my engine, removing the accel return spring and plug wires. No permanent damage, but I was paranoid for weeks.
-Multiple ran out of gas.
-Trash in the fuel pump |
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melville Samba Member
Joined: August 09, 2006 Posts: 1246 Location: Just Outside the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Goldar's VW wrote: |
melville wrote: |
10. Some miscreant copulating with my fuel filler, pissing in my gas tank. Took a tank drain and several fuel filters to straighten that one out.
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Ok, that Stant locking gas cap just got moved up the priority list...
I already have a locking decklid because:
-Some miscreant messing with my engine, removing the accel return spring and plug wires. No permanent damage, but I was paranoid for weeks.
-Multiple ran out of gas.
-Trash in the fuel pump |
It was worse than you might think--I did the tank drain and replaced the lines and filter, but the $#!+ that the pisser loosened up didn't clog the filter until I pulled out to pass on I-5 300 miles from home. We limped it in to Salem OR, found a parts store, and bought a half dozen filters. I changed filters 4 more times over the next 10 days on a Seattle/Tucson/Seattle trip.
Later
Mel _________________ 2000 M Roadster
79 R100RS
78 R100/7
75 R75/6
65 Standard Micro
57 Sedan |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:01 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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Fuel pump pushrod bakelite guide swelling up at running temps and locking the fuel pump pushrod.
crank case seal failing and dumping oil all over the clutch. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
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pondoras box Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1227 Location: Eerie PA
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:00 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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Probably the two worst I had were
1. Blown wheel cylinders, two different buses, both single circuit systems.
a) both were relatively new to me buses, I had done nothing to the brakes at this point, both were converted to dual circuit with all new stuff and was the end of braking issues.
2. Dirty fuel system related failures
a) one bus kept refusing to start unless I cleaned the carb
b) another one ran fine when I bought it but would stall at idle before I got it home.
I have had broken cables and had to adjust / clean points on long road trips but its old technology and I really didn't consider them breakdowns.
So yeah most of my breakdowns have been from not thoroughly going through a new to me car and dealing with the consequences. It adds to the excitement of a road trip. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk |
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Pez Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2003 Posts: 583 Location: Texarkana
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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Piece of slate holding battery in place of newly acquired Baja let loose causing battery to make its own way down the highway.
I've had to call friends for fuel before but this was a first time calling for them to bring a battery. _________________ Always chasing Squirrel's. |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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Has anyone read thru this post and maybe compiled a top ten list of the causes or break downs. Clutch related, ignition to be specific on the electrical, fuel and so on. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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gt1953 wrote: |
Has anyone read thru this post and maybe compiled a top ten list of the causes or break downs. Clutch related, ignition to be specific on the electrical, fuel and so on. |
Bottom line, Tram hit it on the head 10 years ago. The number one reason for breakdowns in aircooled VW's is poor preventative maintenance.
Couple that with folks buying these now 40 plus year old or older VW's with hundreds of thousands of miles on them. These old VW's HAVE TO have all their mechanical systems gone through to be reliable. The vast majority of new owners fail to do so and add to it by buying and installing cheap, Chinese parts.
The owners who go through their old VW's systems and refresh them with good quality parts and restore all the original engine parts are rewarded with very reliable VW's. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
Follow me on instagram @sparxwerksllc
Decades of VW and VW parts restoration experience.
The Samba member since 2004.
**Now rebuilding throttle bodies for VW's and Porsche's**
**Restored German Bosch distributors for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored German Pierburg fuel pumps for sale or I can restore yours**
**Restored Porsche fuel pumps or I can restore yours**
**Restored Porsche distributors or I can restore yours** |
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79SuperVert Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 9758 Location: Elizabeth, NJ & La Isla Del Encanto
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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In 15 years with three Beetles:
1. Loose battery cable (stupid me)
2. Loose starter wire (figured out before calling for a tow)
3. Closed points (stupid me)
4. Unknown FI fault (clueless me - I sold the car)
5. Broken accelerator cable (stupid previous owner)
6. Blown engine (stupid previous owner - I sold the car)
7. Broken crankshaft (I can't take the blame for that one - total surprise).
8. Out of gas (idiot me)
9. Broken wire on coil (fixed that one on the road)
10. Dead coil (had a spare)
So in 15 years, only 1 of 10 breakdowns was due to factors beyond the control of regular maintenance, inspection and owner knowledge. I'd say that's pretty decent reliability for a car designed in the 30's. _________________ Central Jersey VW Society
Wanted: Art Collins VW (Savannah, Georgia) items - license plate surrounds and other items. Also ivory "AM", "FM" and "SW" buttons for a US Blaupunkt Frankfurt.
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Karly Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2002 Posts: 641 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:12 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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In my 10+ years of daily driving air cooled cars -
1) Points - I had a spate where the only 36hp points I could find were just bad from new. Switched brands and much better.
2) fuel pump - the original failed, rebuild - failed, replace with another OG pump which is working fine.
3) clutch cable
4) run out of fuel - my bad, daily driving without a fuel gauge this has actually only happened 3-4 times, the best breakdown as I get 5L of fuel as a top up with my roadside assistance membership. Once I did have a clogged fuel line as a result though and that was a pain but able to be fixed on the side of the road.
5) broken carb linkage - once on my square, once on my bug!
6) snapped accelerator pedal linkage!
7) battery
The above is only really break downs where the car hasn't been able to limp to the mechanic, I've had a number of minor issues where it is still drive-able! I reckon I get my moneys worth out of my AAA membership. _________________ 1960 Beetle ''Heidi" daily driver
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Floating VW Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2015 Posts: 1597 Location: The South Zone
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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The front bearing in my alternator (re-manufactured Bosch) has a backing plate with two little screws in it that secure the bearing to the housing. The only time in 30 years that I ever had to call a tow truck to get the car home was when one of those little screws fell out and grounded itself between the stator and the metal housing, which promptly fried the big, heavy wire from the alternator to the battery.
To be fair, that alternator was on the engine for nearly 14 years before this happened, and after locating the missing screw (now slightly blackened), I put it back in, this time with plenty of blue loctite, and the alternator is still working fine. That was four years ago, and I now have a sixty-amp fuse between the battery and the alternator in case it happens again. _________________ "It's time you started treating people as individuals, rather than mathematically predictable members of an aggregate set, regardless of how well that works." |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12858 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:03 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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#1 reason, owning an ACVW. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:21 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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I've been driving ac VW for 25 years, haven't experienced many of the formentioned problems.... never once broke a clutch cable!
Most issues I've seen are lack of or improper maintenance/repair.
The only real failure I had was a broken hockey stick in the trans... left me stuck in first gear on a 57 split case trans. I still made it home, took forever! |
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williamM Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2008 Posts: 4333 Location: southwest Arizona
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:04 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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Old guy alert-- Been driving VW s since 1965-
!- dropped the reverse pin from case during re-build- sold car.
2- tossed rod in Oz - Katherine NT (?)- and waited 2 weeks for another Bus to hit a tree n bought its engine-
3-new engine sanded by faulty air cleaner (who could have done that???
4-Back in US- snapped dads ghias crank shaft- "I want to drive that to work on mon."- so robbed the engine from bus and off he went.
5-completely wore out new bus motor going to Or in the winter- (was towing a jeep and had MC on a rack on back bumper- 40MPH cross texas. (head wind)
6--went to work for vw- and learned "Not to do that" 1979 (but I digress)
7-Had a spark plug blow out (took the time sert with it) when Laurane took bus on a 3 state cruise.
8-scuffed #3 piston due to poorly adjusted thermostat wire- or maybe just because it wanted to. Was now living in Mt Shasta- so mountians might of had something to do with it.
9- engines for the next 2 buses- Bought cheap-
10- brain fart- I'll get back to you
SO- not really a list of the most common but rather a running history-
But all that's been covered- had my share of cables,elec,set one on fire,ran out of gas, up on 2 wheels- the common stuff. _________________ some days I get up and just sit and think. Some days I just sit.
opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
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vwinnovator Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1555 Location: Still doing it in the back of your VW
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:13 am Post subject: Re: TOP 10 causes of break downs in an air cooled VW |
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1. broken spider gears
2. broken axle
3. broken Ring / Pinion
4. pulled rocker stud
5. stripped valve adj. screw
6. cylinder head cracks/burn through at cyl mating edge (94's)
7. broken valve spring
8. broken ring
9. massive wheelie
10. red light
Oh....those are top 10 "breakdowns" in my race car.... |
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