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Raynor Shine
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Westy 81- couple things that may seem obvious:
1) Replace Oil/Water pump
2)Cams seals/ make sure oil breather cover is aluminum not plastic
3)ECU tune wil take the 1st gear "stutter " out & is also switchable for 87 octane.
4) While engine is out, take off throttle body & CLEAN, clean the IACV as well as this will help your idle.
5) If you are putting in a shortened oil pan, use a product call "the right stuff" That fixed my leak.
6) replace the oil pressure, water temp sensor(use 84 vanagon one)while the engine is out.
5) Use the suby charcaol canister, hook up is super easy.
6) the power steering pump is kinda noisy, I saw someone connect it to the VW connention & it was much quieter.
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r39o
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It is too bad they only offer SVX tuning, it seems.....sigh....
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vwsyncroguy
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| Would you suggest installing this "Stage 1" controller off-the-bat, or waiting until I've got the stock system up and running? |
I think I'd get it up and running first to see how it goes. But the same question posted on the SVXVanagon Yahoo Group might get you some opinions from those that actually have it. I know Paul Guard felt like it solved some running issues he had.
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westy81
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Would you suggest installing this "Stage 1" controller off-the-bat, or waiting until I've got the stock system up and running? |
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vwsyncroguy
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| r39o wrote: |
| Raynor Shine wrote: |
| I would recommend the ECU tune chip for some of the inherent problems of the conversion. |
Where do I find out about this (I assume "hacked") chip? |
Sold by conversion parts supplier Smallcar Performance.
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Here's the specific thing I think Warren is talking about: http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=73 |
No that's a different circuit board they sell that eliminates most of the trouble codes that come up with OBD-II conversions.
The ECU board I was talking about is this one.
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=45
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westy81
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| warren C wrote: |
| r39o wrote: |
| Raynor Shine wrote: |
| I would recommend the ECU tune chip for some of the inherent problems of the conversion. |
Where do I find out about this (I assume "hacked") chip? |
Sold by conversion parts supplier Smallcar Performance.
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Here's the specific thing I think Warren is talking about: http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=73 |
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westy81
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| It is all up to the ref. I hear the guy near Torrance is pretty cool and might be a good guy to talk to. |
This is good to know. I've dealt with the referees at Golden West College (Huntington Beach) and they were hell - I was importing a van. I went to a ref in San Diego (Miramar College) and they were cool.
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| The biggest pain racerx told me was the exhaust. He had to run the stock exhaust system from the SVX up backwards. |
Yeah - this is part of the reason I grabbed the whole car - I'm keeping the exhaust and every nut, bolt and bracket related to the motor/emissions.
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| BTW: I believe the 94-95's are OBD2 which gives the refs more to look for as it is fully traceable software. the old 93's were OBD 1 which is much less traceable. |
Ug... I hope not. Does anybody know if you can simply grab an OBD1 brainbox & harness and swap it in? (Seen some on eBay sell for ~$70 lately)
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| I am also curious as to the amount of extra weight that six is over the 2.2 Subi... |
The KEP catalog says the 2.2 and 2.5 motors are 260lbs, and that the 3.3 is 387lbs: the SVX is supposedly 127lbs more.
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westy81
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Holy shite, man... that's some nice work! |
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vwsyncroguy
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| r39o wrote: |
| Raynor Shine wrote: |
| I would recommend the ECU tune chip for some of the inherent problems of the conversion. |
Where do I find out about this (I assume "hacked") chip? |
Sold by conversion parts supplier Smallcar Performance.
www.smallcar.com
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r39o
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| Raynor Shine wrote: |
| I would recommend the ECU tune chip for some of the inherent problems of the conversion. |
Where do I find out about this (I assume "hacked") chip?
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Alan Brase
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He had to run the stock exhaust system from the SVX up backwards. They wanted to see the 3 stock cats being used in the stock configuration. He did a Syncro so he had the clearance for that hanging under there.
Here is a link to Johns Syncro with the stock exhaust running up the front...
http://www.primafoundry.com/cars/Images/DSC03441.JPG |
Actually, that is quite similar to what VW did on its own with the South Africa 2.6 5 cylinder exhaust. It went half way to the front, then crossed over and went to the rear. One muffler in each section.
Al
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Raynor Shine
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| I can't tell there is 100 lbs difference with the SVX. I had my Westy up to 105Mph with pedal to spare. Proabably not such a smart move in hind sight but I had to try. I would recommend the ECU tune chip for some of the inherent problems of the conversion. |
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pete000
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That's good to know about the obd 1 only being in such late models. I would stick to obd 1 for a conversion in CA
100 lbs isn't much to pay for 230 hp !
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vwsyncroguy
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BTW: I believe the 94-95's are OBD2 which gives the refs more to look for as it is fully traceable software. the old 93's were OBD 1 which is much less traceable.
I am also curious as to the amount of extra weight that six is over the 2.2 Subi... |
Correction here.....92-95 SVX engines are OBD-1. 96-97 are OBD-II.
The SVX weighs a little over a 100 lbs more than a 2.2L
Also, FYI, ......theres a Yahoo Group dedicated to this conversion. Most all it's members are also on the main SubaruVanagon Yahoo Group. But you'll find folks who've "been there...done that" on that Group. You may find it helpful.
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SVXVanagon/
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r39o
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Yeah, that exhaust was permanent...
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Including the sniped off O2 sensor and missing center drive shaft......
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?Waldo?
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Yeah, that exhaust was permanent...
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rs4-380
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yikes.
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pete000
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I have been talking to racerx9146 about the conversion and what it takes to make it legal. It is all up to the ref. I hear the guy near Torrance is pretty cool and might be a good guy to talk to.
The biggest pain racerx told me was the exhaust. He had to run the stock exhaust system from the SVX up backwards. They wanted to see the 3 stock cats being used in the stock configuration. He did a Syncro so he had the clearance for that hanging under there. He also mentioned they were not keen on the engine being mounted backwards which he had to argue has nothing to do with emissions !
I might have to stop by for a visit once you are under way with the job.
BTW: I believe the 94-95's are OBD2 which gives the refs more to look for as it is fully traceable software. the old 93's were OBD 1 which is much less traceable.
I am also curious as to the amount of extra weight that six is over the 2.2 Subi...
Here is a link to Johns Syncro with the stock exhaust running up the front...
http://www.primafoundry.com/cars/Images/DSC03441.JPG
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Lanval
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I believe it is the 'roach-bot' ~ in which a roller ball was installed on the top for the roach to walk on - thereby guiding the robot. Video is available, somewhere... Westy81? Got a link?
Heh, Westy81 - beat you to it: Go here
http://www.conceptlab.com/
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shenan-agon
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: SVX Saga: Installing a Subaru EG33 in an '87 Wolfsburg |
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Okay, I'll bite: what the hell is that thing? |
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