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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
How about the hose compresses.....

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those metal clamps stretch? How about the hose compresses.....
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I check EVERY critical fastener a few months of a few hundred miles after R&R.

The clamping interface, in particular, tends to distort and that is why people often use the spring type clamps. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used ABA fuel clamps when replacing fuel lines on my three VW's and tightened them using a socket rather than just a screwdriver. I recently found a fuel leak on one of the injectors on my T3 and it was due to a loose clamp so I checked them all and they all seemed to have loosened in just a few months.

This is disappointing because I used ABA because they are supposed to be good ones and are recommended by Ratwell. Checking the hose clamps will now be a very regular activity, except for those on the vent lines which I can't access.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All my TDI coolant hoses & fuel lines carry these clamps(the clamps came as OE for my TD). Easily available in any Japanese cars.
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Intercooler hoses are clamped with screwing type Steel clamps.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seedsca wrote:
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Hey, Perales, if you followed the link above to Ultimate Garage you would have found the answer to your question.

Gee how did I miss that..Embarassed
I guess I didn't read it carefully.. I feel silly, Oh well.

I will post a quote for local reference:

Clamps should be torqued properly to assure proper seal - for all ABA Mini clamps & Original Clamps through size #6, use 25-30 inch pounds; for Original Clamps sizes #8 through #16, use 30-40 inch pounds and for sizes #20 and higher, tighten to 40-45 inch pounds.


Kinda strange question, but how do you check the torque? What tool do you use?

If you're a stickler for detail you can use a in.-lb. torque wrench, like this from Sears: http://www.sears.com/neiko-1-4-inch-200-inch-pound-automatic/p-SPM6697773001 But most people are content to use a screwdriver. The recommended torque that are cited in your quote (sizes #8 through #16) are only 3 ft.-lb., so tight enough to keep from coming loose is good enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perales wrote:
tencentlife wrote:
Hey, Perales, if you followed the link above to Ultimate Garage you would have found the answer to your question.

Gee how did I miss that..Embarassed
I guess I didn't read it carefully.. I feel silly, Oh well.

I will post a quote for local reference:

Clamps should be torqued properly to assure proper seal - for all ABA Mini clamps & Original Clamps through size #6, use 25-30 inch pounds; for Original Clamps sizes #8 through #16, use 30-40 inch pounds and for sizes #20 and higher, tighten to 40-45 inch pounds.


Kinda strange question, but how do you check the torque? What tool do you use?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject: Steve D'Gerolamo DID Respond! Reply with quote

This is a thread-bump so you can notice my edited post above, Steve D'Gerolamo DID try to help me, my Spam blocker got him. Drat it, anyway!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out some Subaru fuel line clamps out at your local junkyard,they are the correct size,stainless,and seem to me nicer than the ones listed on here...cheap too!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Kicking the Dead Thread: Hose Clamp Size? <HE DID RESPON Reply with quote

I left this message on the Ultimate Garage 'Contact Us' web page, and haven't gotten an answer in a week. <EDIT> He tried to answer on the 13th, and my Spam blocker got him. !$#@$!% </EDIT>

Anyway, Steve DID do his duty by a customer, and I will be buying my clamps from him when I get his response, if he can re-mail it.

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I will be buying 304SS Mini Clamps from you for my conversion of my 1984 1.9l Vanagon Westfalia Camper to PolyArmour 5/16" i.d. metal fuel lines, using Gates 5/16" Barricade and 1mm Metric Bubble flares for my connections.

I have measured the O.D. of the Barricade over the metric bubble flares, and my metal fittings (new fuel rails and bulkhead) as 15mm, perhaps a very small bit more. I am unsure as to whether to use the #15 clamps, where you give the range as 14.5-16mm, or the #16 clamps, where you give the range as 14-16.3mm HERE:

http://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?cPath=309_30&products_id=3659

What would you suggest? I will be ordering at least 50, plus some larger clamps for the return line, which will be of 3/8 i.d. PolyArmour. I am very grateful if you can spare me the time to get me past this uncertainty.


I'd love to support him, as he's supported us, <EDIT>and he did try to get back to me, and I wanted everybody to know that!</EDIT>

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought mine at McMaster-Carr.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/279/=kwvf47
Note the precaution, "When choosing a clamp, measure the outside diameter of your hose with the fitting installed." That is because with the fitting installed the hose may increase in diameter.
I bought the ones beginning with part # 53175K. They are the ABA brand.

You can have them ship your order or, if you live close to one of their warehouses like I do, pick it up there.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are the ABA clamps from Ultimate Garage sized? I emailed Steve earlier, and I'm sure I'll hear back. But I'd like to know what I'm talking about and looking for here.

I have a 77 FI bus. I have new rubber lines from German Supply and want to use all the screw type, smooth edge ABA clamps. How do I know which ones are the right size?

Here's a print of the clamps and fuel line sizes that came with my new kit:
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I jusr bought a bag of clamps and re-used the flat band that was between orig clamps and hose, no cutting. Orig clamps beyond reuse.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just want to archive a good source of ss clamps. Very fast and cheap shipping too. I get the size 9-10.5mm for vintage cloth fuel hose:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/259/=8gqiim
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busdepot wrote:
We have a pretty good selection of metric hardware and OEM chemicals (additives, sealants, etc.) Look for the "chemicals and hardware" product heading under your vehicle type. For a watercooled Vanagon:

Hardware: http://busdepot.com/catalog.jsp?model=58&category=8&group=3
Chemicals: http://busdepot.com/catalog.jsp?model=43&category=8


Ron, Thanks for posting this, I for one have never looked there before. I would encourage others to TELEPHONE Bus Depot or other vendors when they can't find something on line. There are lots of parts that are either hard to find on line or maybe not available on line at all but still in inventory. Some times you may even need to talk to more than one sales person as one person can't know everything.

Last year BD got me several of the plastic shields that go under the distributor caps. I don' think they showed on line and the first sales person had no idea what I wanted so I asked for a second. The parts ended up being in stock and reasonably priced.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced the fuel lines on our 78. Used the 7 x 3 good hose.

The #13 ABA clamps worked well. I could have used 4 - #14's for the barbed ends of the injectors but was able to have the 13's work OK.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a pretty good selection of metric hardware and OEM chemicals (additives, sealants, etc.) Look for the "chemicals and hardware" product heading under your vehicle type. For a watercooled Vanagon:

Hardware: http://busdepot.com/catalog.jsp?model=58&category=8&group=3
Chemicals: http://busdepot.com/catalog.jsp?model=43&category=8
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ron!!! Im looking to replace most all of the clamps in my Van from the worm style to the non-worm clamp. All the fuel related hoses have this style but looking to replace the others.

Looks like you have just about every size I could use...Im not sure why I havent seen them on the site B4...musta been looking under the wrong heading.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RCB wrote:
Ron, do you carry different sizes of this style of clamp?? Putting a want list together.

Yes, here:
http://busdepot.com/view.jsp?&group=3&prodgroup=1187&sort=3
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the ones Bus Depot sells:
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