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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? Reply with quote

If I were to take apart the split case BD transaxle to remove the axles, would I be able to install them along with the axle tubes and reduction boxes into a later fully syncronized "tunnel case" transaxle?

Has anyone ever done this?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen Barndoor reduction boxes and axles tubes on a tunnel-case transmission in a '54 Deluxe.

I am not 100% sure if they used the barndoor axles but what else could they use?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was the setup in my 53 DLX
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That was the setup in my 53 DLX


Was it a strait across swap? Or do I need to mix and match parts?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the axles themselves are interchageable from '50-'67. the side cover plates might be different from split case to tunnel type. the most that you would have to do is to change the side cover plates and the axle tubes if they are also different.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what I need to know. Thank you. I think the side plates/axle tube mounting is the same on split case and tunnel case.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting thread.

What if I want to use the barndoor driveaxles and reductionboxes in a split beetle splitcase transmission? Is that a possible match too?

I just opened the trasched transmission to save the driveaxles etc out of it for the conversion I'm about to do.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The transmissions themselves are the same as far as I know, except for possible gearing differences.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hebster52 wrote:
Interesting thread.

What if I want to use the barndoor driveaxles and reductionboxes in a split beetle splitcase transmission? Is that a possible match too?

I just opened the trasched transmission to save the driveaxles etc out of it for the conversion I'm about to do.

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the trans will swap over but everett is correct...the forward gears have different gearing and dont forget to flip that ring and pinion over to the other side...
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hebster52 wrote:
Interesting thread.

What if I want to use the barndoor driveaxles and reductionboxes in a split beetle splitcase transmission? Is that a possible match too?

I just opened the trasched transmission to save the driveaxles etc out of it for the conversion I'm about to do.

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Man, that thing took a shit!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I'll see what parts that goes into the split transmission. Hopefully atleast the driveaxles and tubes so I can fit the rgb's to the split for my Kommanderwagen project. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the setup that I have in my highride green '53, later synchro trans with '55 barndoor reductions. Pulled the entire setup out of a columbian bus and dropped it right in. Ive seen this setup quite a lot, Clinton ('53 RHD) in the UK just pulled that setup out of his bus to put straight axle in.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What year is your synchro transmission?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not sure, I'll take a look under the bus when i'm home tomorrow night and get the numbers off it. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Hebster52,

please post how you get on with this as im hoping to do this very shortly with some barndoor axles and rdb going into a 46/47 beetle split case gearbox for another little project.

The setup that was in Clintons 53 look like they have used a much later beetle box i think but im not sure, either way it worked well apparently.

Incidently does anyone know what an approximate top speed would be using split beetle gear ratio's with barndoor reduction boxes and 16 rims?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I will update you on how it goes.

Maybe this helps some?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

52panelvan wrote:
Hi Hebster52,

please post how you get on with this as im hoping to do this very shortly with some barndoor axles and rdb going into a 46/47 beetle split case gearbox for another little project.

The setup that was in Clintons 53 look like they have used a much later beetle box i think but im not sure, either way it worked well apparently.

Incidently does anyone know what an approximate top speed would be using split beetle gear ratio's with barndoor reduction boxes and 16 rims?


Hmm. Forgot to post this up here. I got the parts fitted the past summer.
No problem at all. Only thing I had to do was to change the Ring drive from the split diff to the BD diff and fit the whole lump with axles into the split transaxle.

It was all Bolt-on. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? Reply with quote

Does anyone know the length of the main ( long ) axle for the Barndoor transmission ? I know it is shorter than the '56 and later transmission, but by how much ? I'm putting together a transmission for a Typ 82e repro with a full syncro tunnel housing center and Barndoor RGB assemblies, but just found out about the difference between '50 to '55 barndoor and '56 and later. All I need is the correct Barndoor axles, I have all the rest including the axle tubes. Thanks, Gene
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? Reply with quote

geneL3c wrote:
Does anyone know the length of the main ( long ) axle for the Barndoor transmission ? I know it is shorter than the '56 and later transmission, but by how much ? I'm putting together a transmission for a Typ 82e repro with a full syncro tunnel housing center and Barndoor RGB assemblies, but just found out about the difference between '50 to '55 barndoor and '56 and later. All I need is the correct Barndoor axles, I have all the rest including the axle tubes. Thanks, Gene
Where did you find out about this difference? As far as know, bus axles are interchangeable from '50-'67.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? Reply with quote

I’ve assembled a tunnel case trans with 55-67 bus axles and barndoor axle housings/stub axles without issues. Haven’t actually driven it yet but it did go together just fine.
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