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Franz Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? |
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If I were to take apart the split case BD transaxle to remove the axles, would I be able to install them along with the axle tubes and reduction boxes into a later fully syncronized "tunnel case" transaxle?
Has anyone ever done this? |
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EverettB Administrator
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spookymulder Samba Proletariat
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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That was the setup in my 53 DLX |
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Franz Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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spookymulder wrote: |
That was the setup in my 53 DLX |
Was it a strait across swap? Or do I need to mix and match parts?
Thanks, Franz |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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the axles themselves are interchageable from '50-'67. the side cover plates might be different from split case to tunnel type. the most that you would have to do is to change the side cover plates and the axle tubes if they are also different. _________________ .
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Franz Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thats what I need to know. Thank you. I think the side plates/axle tube mounting is the same on split case and tunnel case. |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1771 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting thread.
What if I want to use the barndoor driveaxles and reductionboxes in a split beetle splitcase transmission? Is that a possible match too?
I just opened the trasched transmission to save the driveaxles etc out of it for the conversion I'm about to do.
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EverettB Administrator
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gatorwyatt Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hebster52 wrote: |
Interesting thread.
What if I want to use the barndoor driveaxles and reductionboxes in a split beetle splitcase transmission? Is that a possible match too?
I just opened the trasched transmission to save the driveaxles etc out of it for the conversion I'm about to do.
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the trans will swap over but everett is correct...the forward gears have different gearing and dont forget to flip that ring and pinion over to the other side... _________________ www.blastserv.com
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bubba Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hebster52 wrote: |
Interesting thread.
What if I want to use the barndoor driveaxles and reductionboxes in a split beetle splitcase transmission? Is that a possible match too?
I just opened the trasched transmission to save the driveaxles etc out of it for the conversion I'm about to do.
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Man, that thing took a shit!! |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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streetwagens Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2005 Posts: 475 Location: Wales, GB
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Thats the setup that I have in my highride green '53, later synchro trans with '55 barndoor reductions. Pulled the entire setup out of a columbian bus and dropped it right in. Ive seen this setup quite a lot, Clinton ('53 RHD) in the UK just pulled that setup out of his bus to put straight axle in. _________________ To catch a fish, you must first think like a fish.... |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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streetwagens Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:11 am Post subject: |
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Im not sure, I'll take a look under the bus when i'm home tomorrow night and get the numbers off it. _________________ To catch a fish, you must first think like a fish.... |
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52panelvan Samba Member
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Hi Hebster52,
please post how you get on with this as im hoping to do this very shortly with some barndoor axles and rdb going into a 46/47 beetle split case gearbox for another little project.
The setup that was in Clintons 53 look like they have used a much later beetle box i think but im not sure, either way it worked well apparently.
Incidently does anyone know what an approximate top speed would be using split beetle gear ratio's with barndoor reduction boxes and 16 rims? |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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52panelvan wrote: |
Hi Hebster52,
please post how you get on with this as im hoping to do this very shortly with some barndoor axles and rdb going into a 46/47 beetle split case gearbox for another little project.
The setup that was in Clintons 53 look like they have used a much later beetle box i think but im not sure, either way it worked well apparently.
Incidently does anyone know what an approximate top speed would be using split beetle gear ratio's with barndoor reduction boxes and 16 rims? |
Hmm. Forgot to post this up here. I got the parts fitted the past summer.
No problem at all. Only thing I had to do was to change the Ring drive from the split diff to the BD diff and fit the whole lump with axles into the split transaxle.
It was all Bolt-on.
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The KidVRod project
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The 1966 Kommanderwagen, SOLD
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geneL3c Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? |
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Does anyone know the length of the main ( long ) axle for the Barndoor transmission ? I know it is shorter than the '56 and later transmission, but by how much ? I'm putting together a transmission for a Typ 82e repro with a full syncro tunnel housing center and Barndoor RGB assemblies, but just found out about the difference between '50 to '55 barndoor and '56 and later. All I need is the correct Barndoor axles, I have all the rest including the axle tubes. Thanks, Gene |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? |
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geneL3c wrote: |
Does anyone know the length of the main ( long ) axle for the Barndoor transmission ? I know it is shorter than the '56 and later transmission, but by how much ? I'm putting together a transmission for a Typ 82e repro with a full syncro tunnel housing center and Barndoor RGB assemblies, but just found out about the difference between '50 to '55 barndoor and '56 and later. All I need is the correct Barndoor axles, I have all the rest including the axle tubes. Thanks, Gene |
Where did you find out about this difference? As far as know, bus axles are interchangeable from '50-'67. _________________ .
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nshaddox Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2005 Posts: 612 Location: Hammatramma, MI
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 3:41 am Post subject: Re: Split case to tunnel case transaxle with BD reduction boxes? |
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I’ve assembled a tunnel case trans with 55-67 bus axles and barndoor axle housings/stub axles without issues. Haven’t actually driven it yet but it did go together just fine. |
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