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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: using an oil cooler as a heater core? |
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tried searching this out.......with no luck, has anyone on here seen or tried to use a remote mounted oil cooler for a source of heat in a bus?
I've had remote coolers mounted above my transmission on my bugs and was thinking that with some creative ducting and the corrct placement of an electric fan i could have some good heat in my bus _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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eeeeewwww i hope he has....... that kit looks nothing like what i was thinking about. why would someone sell that without high pressure fittings? _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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The biggest problem with it is that when you want heat in the car (like in winter), the oil is too cool. YOu want the oil to be at least 185º all of the time.
When you do not want heat (like int he summer time), the oil has plenty of heat.
You could almost get yoru heaters to work for that $200. |
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm only considering this option because my heaters do work quite well but still not enough. I don't anticipate any problems in the winter with my oil not being hot enough. wheather hot or cold outside the engine still functions within a heat range. i'm sure i can make something sweet was just curious if anyone had already tried. _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Suggestion:
Blow forced air from an air compressor with a "blow gun" from the front of the bus to the disconected back. Get that big long pipe as clean as possible.
Then insulate the heat pipe that goes from the rear to the front. Reattach the accordian tubes.
Finally install a blower http://www.marineparts.com/partspages/Accessories/ACC4.HTM or two of them mounted in the engine compartment making usre that they are blowing the heat forward. |
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Fix all drafts in your bus. Stock heat is marginal, but with new door seals it will get quite comfy. Don't forget the fresh air vent up front.
Bill _________________ burning down the house
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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these are all things i've already done......its not that my stock heater isnt working.........i want more heat!!!!!!! _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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Blaubus Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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the key is to fix the drafts. then insulate. |
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:51 am Post subject: |
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never said my bus was drafty....so no one has ever tried using an oil cooler as a heater core
MY STOCK HEATER IS WORKING JUST AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN WHEN THE BUS WAS NEW _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Well if you go that route, let us know how it all works out. |
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Duncwarw Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Are you sure about that?
My vehicle puts out more heat than I'll ever need to drive in a tee shirt in winter. Now all I need is door seals that actually seal.
I've yet to see a water pumper match the veedub's heat output.
If you're cold with 180 degree heat, something else is wrong. _________________ “To find yourself, think for yourself”
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twinfalls Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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A well maintained, stock heat system gives a lot of heat
Check the two heat control valves operation.
Are they both fully closed when the left heat lever is up, and both fully open when the left heat lever is down ?
You should feel the warm air with your hand, 2" over the dashboard outlets at the windshield.. _________________ Stock 1974 US Westy, AW-A 1800cc dual carbs. Twin Falls is my favorite site on the Churchill river in Manitoba. |
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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does anyone here read? _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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dtrumbo Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I've learned the hard way that when you come into this forum with the answer to your question already in your mind, you rarely get that answer from everyone else. It sounds like you've already decided quite a few things, so like Randy said, let us know how it works out. _________________ 1970 Transporter. 2074cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
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agreendaya Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2006 Posts: 1307 Location: Winthrop, MA USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: Re: using an oil cooler as a heater core? |
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dcdubs wrote: |
tried searching this out.......with no luck, has anyone on here seen or tried to use a remote mounted oil cooler for a source of heat in a bus?
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Since nobody else seems to want to actually answer...no, I have not seen or tried to use a remote mounted oil cooler for a source of heat in a bus. I think that's what they're all trying to say.
Not that I'd try it, but I'd be curious to see if you pull it off. |
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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exactly thank you....we'll see if it turns out, vanagons use a heater box that mounts under the rear shelf i was thinking of using or modifing. the point is to take the van skiing.......and if you ski or board you know there is nothing better than a nice hot toasty car on the way home........or even better a nice toasty camper bus where someone in the back seat can have actual warm air blowing on them........ _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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agreendaya Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Admittedly I could care less if there's heat in the back, cause I'm always driving, but that would certainly be a worthwhile venture. |
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dcdubs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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i was going to attempt this when i put in my new engine which will be a 1915cc with a satelite oil cooler anyway so i might as well try to get a little heat off it......i'll post pics so people can talk shit _________________ dcdubs/glcustoms
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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You may want to use something like this
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ECO0039&cartid=
and make it so that you can mount it under the bus above the transaxle in the summer time. You get what you pay for with those (they cost a lot but are worth it). It would be nice to have a oil temperature gauge so that you will know what the OT really is.
In the interest of full disclosure, I must confess that I have a "Mr. Buddy" type propane heater that I have used once and it really took the chill out of the air. |
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