starter problems

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: starter problems

ok I am trying to start my bus 66 12volt and the bus is having issues
I try to start the engine and it cranks over once then it wont go any more i put a new battiery on it and the same i but a new starter in it and the same i take off my connection to the starter and clean it with a wire brush and the same thing. all i am getting is one crank every time what is going on

mooose · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject:

hello have u tried to put it on a charge while u try to start it ? also it might be the voltage regulator(the silver box looking thing ) u can get those at local parts stores

do u have any repair books ?????books help alot , buy some used ones ...

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject:

ok that is not hooked up right and it dosent seem to be right on the alternator

mooose · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject:

do u have a alternator or generator ?

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:

alternator

mooose · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject:

what happens when u put it on a charge ?

man u have a sweet bus

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

nothing diffrent even with it at full power

mooose · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject:

there is alot of people in the chat ... that is a good place to get help if u are working on it now ...... what happened to the engine ? and when did it start doing this ?

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject:

ok i just bought it and he said that he had just put a type 1 tranny in it he didnt say anything about the engine right before he sold it to me he wired it up so it would drive he had the same problem and he thought it was just a old battire so he didnt worry about it he had a friend help him push start it so thats what he did and thats how i have it now how should the regulator be hooked up?

mooose · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject:

i dont think u need it if u have a alternator

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject:

ok then where dose the hot wire leading of the starter go to?

mooose · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject:

1 should be to the batt.. and 1 should be to the the ignition switch.mabey it fell off how are the lights (bright )have u tried tapping on the solenoid (NOT ON THE WIRES )and then trying to start ( TAKE OUT OF GEAR !!)

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject:

what do you mean?

Buckly · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

I tried to get you to follow the link eric and barb gave you on your last thread about your starter problems.
I'm telling you, just go buy a bunch of parts and start replacing. If you should start running out of money or hurt your back push starting your bus get back on your other thread and follow the link.

Oh the hell with it, Here it is. Read this thread. I know you'll find your problem. If you don't understand My post within this thread get back here or just ask there, any question you have. My guess would be you may need a little help becoming familiar with a multimeter, and if you got the coin for your bus then spend the coin on a mulimeter, or go spend money at shop and forgo the great experiance you would gain from fixing your own crap.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=257577

By the way, a 67 wiring diagram will show you where your wires go, try the technical link at the top of the page and find the wiring diagram you need.
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dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject:

could it be a timing problem causing alot of compression

Buckly · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject:

compression is compressions. Now timing is when the spark fires in relationship to engine stroke. An out of time bus will not start right, sput and back fire or pop. It will keep turning over. You have a voltage drop problem or a dead battery. Sounds like you've ruled out dead battery, so I'd guess voltage drop. Have you read the linked thread yet? If you want to shotgun diagnose your problem try disconnecting the negitve lead where its bolted to the body, clean the bolt, the bolt hole and the cable where it touches the bolt and retighten the bolt. Now climb under the bus and find the ground strap that goes from the body to the transmission. clean both ends the same way. If that doesn't work (why you would do any of this without checking it all out with a volt meter) get down under the starter, disconnect the small wire from the starter, the one with the spade terminal. Connect the red lead of your volt meter to it and connect your black lead to the body. Have your buddy turn the key like he's going to start the bus and read your meter, have him hold the key in the start position for a moment. If it doesn't have 12.00v reading on the screen you got problems else where, but don't worry, now that you have a volt meter you'll be able to find that problem with a little help and guidance form here.
If you get through these things and your still having the same problem we can talk you through checking your timing staticly. Ya know, just to rule it out.
why do you think its the time? Is the engine bucking or doing something weird? Almost sounds like you have a gut feeling?
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dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject:

well my buddie just called up and said thatmy problem was the timeing and the engine wasn't allowing the fuel to properly burn so he thought that the engine would cause a lot of compression so that the starter couldn't turn it over more than once. it sounds like a good idea.

Buckly · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject:

Have you ever adjusted your valves?
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Campy · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject:

Don't use the "guess and by golly" method of replacing parts when you don't know what the problem is.
The ignition timing being way too advanced will make it do that. Static-time it, then start it, if you can, and set the ignition timing with a timing light.

dillon schuh · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject:

so moving my distrubuter would help


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