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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Balljoint Camber Adjuster help Reply with quote

While rebuilding my beam, I unfortunately misplaced my thing camber adjusters. I was able to come up with a pair of bug adjusters, but later learned of the fitment issues first hand and confirmed here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2066689#2066689

Does anyone know where I can come up with a pair of thing camber adjusters or where (preferably in southern california) a set of bug adjusters can be machined to fit thing balljoints?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Brad, Your best bet locally would be German Motor Works in Garden Grove, CA. I'd think any competent machine shop should be able to machine yours as well, however, having a Thing eccentric for them to model off of would be best.

What do you have with a Thing front end now?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i called them up. the were really no help. and right now, the thing front end is in parts all over the place. I also went to a couple of machine shops up in Ontario with no results.

it will eventually go under this car:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12933

Try him. I talked to a little last week and was told he has a lot of stuff and he seemed to know things pretty good.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GMW didn't have them to sell? Amazing! Did you speak with a man or woman? Thing Shop in AZ? I'm sure Kmann will see this thread and speak up, he always does.

Did you lose the ones that came with the beam? I have one you can borrow if you find someone to machine them.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GMW didn't have them to sell? Amazing! Did you speak with a man or woman? Thing Shop in AZ? I'm sure Kmann will see this thread and speak up, he always does.

Did you lose the ones that came with the beam? I have one you can borrow if you find someone to machine them.

I lost them. I'm sure I could find them around here somewhere, but this place is a mess right now. As far as GMW, I spoke with a woman who asked a man so I'm counting that as a loss. I'll call up the place in Arizona tomorrow.


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Try him. I talked to a little last week and was told he has a lot of stuff and he seemed to know things pretty good.

als e-mailed this guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a place called TC ....

I forgot the name-maybe someone here will chime in.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah.....TC's Old VDub Home in Tujunga, CA. Tim is a good guy, he sells every so often at Pomona too.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to Verdugo High in the late 60's. I built dune buggies to drive up in
Angeles Nat'l Forest/ TJ made me think of the glory VW daze///

My first one was built from my 61 vert that I bought from my mother who bought it new from the VW that was in Sunland.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made my own from some beetle ones, to get the taper right use the stem from an old balljoint. This will give you the right taper and the marks on the old stem will give you the correct depth for the taper.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mackaymanx wrote:
I made my own from some beetle ones, to get the taper right use the stem from an old balljoint. This will give you the right taper and the marks on the old stem will give you the correct depth for the taper.

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Nice work!
What tapered reamer did you use? Do you have a pic of it for those who dont know what a tapered reamer looks like?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a lathe not a tapered reamer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a lathe? i'm no machinist, but that sounds hard to do with an off-center hole?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it's dead easy. you set it up off the face and the original bore using a 4-jaw chuck. The hard bit is getting the taper right but you have the balljoint stem as a gauge as you enlarge the hole.

p.s. Yes I am a machinist
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I can't come up with anything then maybe I'll take it to the machinists at work when I go back in a couple of weeks.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see your trying to build something maybe for off road, but you could get bug ball joints and bug eccentrics, not quit as beefy, but look at all thoughs bug bajhs that kick ass.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buckly wrote:
I see your trying to build something maybe for off road, but you could get bug ball joints and bug eccentrics, not quit as beefy, but look at all thoughs bug bajhs that kick ass.

where's the fun in that?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel your pain Brad, I went through the same thing went I did my Thing beam, except I tossed my old eccentrics. Yes, I threw away a pair of these hard to find 181 eccentrics, Embarassed Why, because I had nice new type 1 units Confused That's when I found out they were different, and also how hard they are to find.
Anyway, I ended up buying a couple tappered reams and making the type 1's work.
What a pain in the ass way to learn the difference between type 1 and 181 camber adjusters.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

would you, by chance, still have those reamers?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you make a set for me to fit the thing ball joints using the bug ones that have more of a camber adjustment?
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