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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think according to Nigel the dog would be better off in the trunk of a car than in the back seat so it doesn't become a missile when you have a wreck.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things don't always work in practice as they may seem in theory.
If you're worried about safety don't drive a baywindow, take the big SUV and don't worry about anybody elses safety.

If you want to have some fun take the bay, and the dog.
Oh and roll down the window so the dog can have some fun too.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cool dog. looks like your pooch could be related to mine Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... has anyone managed to construct or otherwise retrofit head restraints to their folding rear seat, such that they are safe, secure when in place, but removable from the seat allowing it to still fold down? It'll only be a year or two before my wee lad's head is taller than the seat back...
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My rear seat has the holes for the factory head rests. Is that what you mean?
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big problem with the rear seat is that it can unfold.

I don't remember who sells it but someone over here sells the first approved folding hinges. Took them a lot of time and $ to develop and get certified and is unfortunately reflected in the price. I think it was something like $880 for the hinges. Technically it's the only way for a camper to seat people legally in the rear here. I doubt many people actually own these hinges though.

I think the best option would be to use a bench seat from something and build the seat around it. A bench seat with removable headrests that is.

There are doggie seat belt harnesses too sold here. I guess the best form of safety would be to have a non- walkthrough and reinforced mesh barrier so in an accident what's left of you will be hit with more manageable bite sized chunks of dog.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My rear seat has the holes for the factory head rests. Is that what you mean?


Hey chabanais - Is your rear seat one that folds into a bed? I've got a Riviera folding seat/bed - crafted diligently without any sort of head support for folks 5' and up...


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Technically it's the only way for a camper to seat people legally in the rear here.


@RatCamper: Wow - I think that the seat will remain folded up if folks are strapped in (talking peeps not pets!)... you might be right about the struts needing to be more serious tho, but we don't (yet?) have regulations requiring something stridently designed and tested to allow adults in the rear seat. Here in FL we have specific reg's for kids tho. My lad is in the weird range of being too big for a booster in the rear seat, as it leaves him without head support. The 3-point retractable I installed fits just right without the booster, but he won't stay this size for long!
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My rear seat has the holes for the factory head rests. Is that what you mean?


Hey chabanais - Is your rear seat one that folds into a bed? I've got a Riviera folding seat/bed - crafted diligently without any sort of head support for folks 5' and up...


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Technically it's the only way for a camper to seat people legally in the rear here.


@RatCamper: Wow - I think that the seat will remain folded up if folks are strapped in (talking peeps not pets!)... you might be right about the struts needing to be more serious tho, but we don't (yet?) have regulations requiring something stridently designed and tested to allow adults in the rear seat. Here in FL we have specific reg's for kids tho. My lad is in the weird range of being too big for a booster in the rear seat, as it leaves him without head support. The 3-point retractable I installed fits just right without the booster, but he won't stay this size for long!


I think the problem is in a frontal impact the seat can kind of escape from its upright position and try to fold out / up essentially trying to propel itself through the occupants of said seat.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the problem is in a frontal impact the seat can kind of escape from its upright position and try to fold out / up essentially trying to propel itself through the occupants of said seat.


Hmm... So, in that case, the hinges would need to lock in the upright - some pins or straps might be helpful there... hell's bells - another project!
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use a standard rear bench seat and Z Bed hinges but the head rests need to be removed first obviously. There is a company in CA that makes something similar I saw an ad in Hot VWs I'll see if I can find it and post a link. It was like $600 or something though. ($349)

Found it here (yes it works for Bays):

http://www.delmarretro.com/Home_Page.php

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the problem is in a frontal impact the seat can kind of escape from its upright position and try to fold out / up essentially trying to propel itself through the occupants of said seat.


Hmm... So, in that case, the hinges would need to lock in the upright - some pins or straps might be helpful there... hell's bells - another project!


There was a thread a while back ...I think it may have been mnskmobi that did something like that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the input Gents!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And then, in spite of well-engineered equipment, some folks just go their own separate way...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone have some pics of what the mounting looks like when looking through the rear seat? I'd like to see what the belts attach to in this area.(not my bus). I need to add a baby seat to the back and need to add a lap belt in the middle or to one side.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even with a Z-bed or delmar retro bed the seat belts still attach here

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I found it also here. I thought it was more complicated behind there thats all Embarassed

And here....http://paulssplit.blogspot.com/2011/08/fitting-seat-belt-anchor-points.html

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Rear bench-seat head restraints Reply with quote

I was interested to note a recent topic thread, on the Late Bay forum, which perports to show the campervan furniture & equipment, of what the owner describes, as a 1978 VW Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan. Whether it truly is a Westfalia Continental, is somewhat academic; the main point of interest being, that the rear rock & roll bench seat, is fitted with three head restraints

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The Late Bay » Mech, Tech & Products » Camper Interiors & Conversions » Westfalia 1978 Continental

http://thelatebay.com/index.php?topic=350.0
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Rear bench-seat head restraints Reply with quote

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...the main point of interest being, that the rear rock & roll bench seat, is fitted with three head restraints

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Those headrests look exactly like T3/T25 (Vanagon) headrests:

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The van guys retrofit headrests into the rear seat of models that came without 'em: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=303299 (you guys could probably use the same procedure/parts); so I'd presume that Bus went through a retrofit, or the seat itself is out of a T3.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Rear Seat Belts Reply with quote

Rearmost seat belts, with raised shoulder-strap mountings

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can i buy some of them? Shocked
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