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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: okrasa heads Reply with quote

what are everyone's thoughts on these okrasa heads?
original seconds? factory blems? repro?
I have never heard of heads being sold which need so much machine work as these. there are not even any holes for the headstuds. something apears to be very wrong here.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It almost looks like machine work had begun before they were rejected
because of defective casting in the cooling fin area and they didn't make it back to the furnace. Confused
Or maybe the fins really are okay and some guy at the foundry took a pair home in his lunch box so he could hop up his own engine?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: okrasa heads Reply with quote

Hey i am the owner of the heads donīt know the story but the heads are OG with the number Okrasa 0 15-10
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: okrasa heads Reply with quote

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Hey i am the owner of the heads donīt know the story but the heads are OG with the number Okrasa 0 15-10
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best regard jan denmark

where did you find the heads? do you have other okrasa heads to compare them to?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard somene was selling repo Okrasa kits
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: okrasa heads Reply with quote

http://www.tomholdermark.co.uk/KGOC/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296&start=0

hey lind chek cab 365..

ther is a pic of my okrasa motor...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Re: okrasa heads Reply with quote

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hey lind chek cab 365..

ther is a pic of my okrasa motor...

best regard jan denmark

nice looking car and engine. since you have another okrasa, have you side by side compared these heads to other okrasa heads?

where did the heads come from?

any idea why they were not finished when they were produced? I have never heard of any unfinished heads being sold.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: okrasa heads Reply with quote

hey Lind

No I have not don a side by side compared of the heads.
I donīt know wher they come from..
I have them from a friend..

jan

ps. if you donīt have see them before maby the are Mega rare.. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: okrasa heads Reply with quote

LANGEBERG wrote:
hey Lind

No I have not don a side by side compared of the heads.
I donīt know wher they come from..
I have them from a friend..

jan

ps. if you donīt have see them before maby the are Mega rare.. Very Happy

I have seen NOS okrasa kits and NOS okrasa heads, but never machinework done to them. I do not see why Oettinger would ever sell such a product.

you should ask your friend where they came from.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there has been rumor for some time that at least one if not two people (companies) had an effort going to reproduce okrasa heads.
Those unmachined heads may be NOS and original but I somehow wouldnt buy them with out first hand inspection.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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there has been rumor for some time that at least one if not two people (companies) had an effort going to reproduce okrasa heads.


You can't beat the real deal.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Troy (Karmann Ghia fan in Oakland CA) had a line on a number of these heads a while back. Not sure where he found them, but I'm pretty sure they were found in Europe and were original, just unmachined.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if these are the same set or if he has more ?
The first set were supposedly sold.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Roth wrote:
I wonder if these are the same set or if he has more ?
The first set were supposedly sold.

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hey Richard ..dont know were my old add i but they were not be sold so i made a new add with the same heads..only have one set..best regard jan denmark now with the right price on..sorry
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: unfinished Okrasa heads Reply with quote

I heard a few years ago that there was a several dozen of these unfinished unmachined Okrasa heads in Belgium? But the cost to finish them was too high to make it worth while? I think they might still be sitting over there. Maybe they are rejects? Tim
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Okrasa Heads / Un-machined Reply with quote

About 15 years ago, I was offered to buy (2) two pallets, 36"X42" stacked 10 heads high with these unmachined OKRASA heads!! The owner sent me several glossy 8X10 sized black and white photos of the heads!! I bought one pair to check /see what were they all about. When I recieved the heads, I compared them to several pairs of NOS 36hp Okrasa heads I already had and they "looked" just like any pair.

I took the un-machined heads to RIMCO, back in the day when Jim F. worked there. He was amazed to see them in un-machined condition to say the least. I first told him that someone overseas offered to sell me a couple of pallets of these un-machined Okrasa heads at a "pretty good" price. The next thing I told him, "something doesnt seem right". He agreed that "something" is probably wrong with them as well as the other batch. He agreed to test them and that he would get back to me when he found out the results. About 3 weeks later, I got the call! Sure enough, the aluminum was "way too soft" (contamination) as he put it. Im not a machinest but I got the "gist" of what he meant. Needless to say, I passed on the whole batch and just forgot about them....

15 years later, they RESURFACED again! Im sure they are the same ones....Too bad because even at $50 a piece, they were'nt worth the price to me at that time....Now, who knows... If I dont forget and if I can find the old black and white photos, I will scan them and post for you to see.........

Cheers! Mr. Okrasa www.imageevent.com/mrokrasa
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey mr fokrasa i have read you expatise on some okrasa heads 20 years ago but have had mine in you hand ??..how can you know this items is the same ...i will gladly have them testet..and maby you have right..i dont know ..tell me about how you chek them..jan denmark Question
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they are an attempt at reproduction.
I can't picture Okrasa letting that many defective heads with their logo on them get into the public's hands.
If they were finished and used, then failed.
It would ruin their reputation.
I believe they would have destroyed or melted them down and re-used the materials.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: okrasa heads Reply with quote

...and what do you think about this:

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