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Paulbeard Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2015 Posts: 2604 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: How hot does that resistor get? |
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Um, yeah. That looks a lot more long term.
I'll see if I can figure out what's needed. The resistor, I know, but I'll revisit and see what can make of it. _________________ Currently -> Frida: 87 Tizian Red (mostly) Vanagon GL Westfalia w/ 2.0L ABA conversion
Formerly -> Steward of a 73 Super Beetle (Beater) and 67 Beetle 1300 (Little Max) both names by POs
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32634 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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Paulbeard Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2015 Posts: 2604 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: How hot does that resistor get? |
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djkeev wrote: |
Paulbeard wrote: |
Um, yeah. That looks a lot more long term.
I'll see if I can figure out what's needed. The resistor, I know, but I'll revisit and see what can make of it. |
That's an excellent mod ^^^^^ don't be so quick to dismiss it so off handedly.
Dave |
I'm not. I'm a little overwhelmed/frustrated by the scope of this whole project. The part is ordered along with the vent hose that was missing tomorrow I hope to get it all back in there. I will be delighted if she starts and runs when I'm done. _________________ Currently -> Frida: 87 Tizian Red (mostly) Vanagon GL Westfalia w/ 2.0L ABA conversion
Formerly -> Steward of a 73 Super Beetle (Beater) and 67 Beetle 1300 (Little Max) both names by POs
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:28 am Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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Yesterday I joined the ranks of those who have taken on this project in a Vanagon. The atrocious PNW weather and a few days off from work made this the long weekend to get after it. I've been collecting all the parts and bookmarking samba threads in preparation for a while.
This heater box is 1986 original, never opened, very interesting and almost archaeological to be touching fasteners that were last handled by a tech in "West Germany" in 1986.
I will do alot of the usual "while in there" stuff.
On tidbit: my new blower motor from VC has the end bearing that can be serviced through the Mullendore port already capped/sealed.
Big thanks to those who have gone before and posted about it; all the tricky operations were easy so far armed with the correct knowledge. _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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Question: the free swinging forced air flaps originally had some foam, now dust, which is much thinner the the foam on the control flaps. What have people used on these? _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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blaumeister Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2015 Posts: 18 Location: Portland Ore.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:43 am Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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teej wrote: |
Question: the free swinging forced air flaps originally had some foam, now dust, which is much thinner the the foam on the control flaps. What have people used on these? |
I used the same stuff. 3M camper tape.
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MMM0/0342...;ppt=C1956
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Skidub Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2014 Posts: 204 Location: PNW
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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Teej, IMHO the insulation tape via the link below is the best product. I did some comparisons and went with this:
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Armacell-2-in-x-30-ft-R-1...mp;cj=true
On control flap #3 you want to have the flap extend about 3/16 past the steel flap for better contact with the box. You will need to cut a small strip and apply sticky side to stick side for this overhang so that there is no stickiness exposed.
I just disassembled and rebuilt my entire heater box. PM me if you get into it and have questions. _________________ 86 Syncro GL Tin Top
Subaru 2.5L Swap
Rblt Transaxle w/ R Locker + Decoupler |
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:02 am Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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Thanks for the replies. I used the camper tape on everything but the box is still on the bench, I will bench test today. I will have a look at the linked tape above while I'm at the Home Depot today.
I had to rebuild the hinge tabs on the free-swinging forced air flaps, they had become detached and the flaps were just laying in the box when I opened it up. That alone may explain our lame defrost air volume.
I had planned to do the resistor mod, but my original resistor still works, and there are no signs of any heat damage in the vicinity, so I will instead give the blower a good dedicated ground and reuse the resistor.
I'm hoping to finish up this weekend. _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:50 am Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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teej wrote: |
I had planned to do the resistor mod, but my original resistor still works...so I will...reuse the resistor... |
As long as you're aware of the potential problem down the line, go for it...eyes wide open... ...
All I'm saying is that nothing lasts forever. I did mine the first opportunity so I might never have to go
in the box again. Now I'm prepped for a ten-minute job if (sorry - WHEN!) the new one burns out.
Also, a cover on the fan tail bearing will keep the need for your Mully port to a minimum.
Either way, ventilation is a great thing...nice work!
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:58 am Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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dhaavers wrote: |
teej wrote: |
I had planned to do the resistor mod, but my original resistor still works...so I will...reuse the resistor... |
As long as you're aware of the potential problem down the line, go for it...eyes wide open... ...
All I'm saying is that nothing lasts forever. I did mine the first opportunity so I might never have to go
in the box again. Now I'm prepped for a ten-minute job if (sorry - WHEN!) the new one burns out.
Also, a cover on the fan tail bearing will keep the need for your Mully port to a minimum.
Either way, ventilation is a great thing...nice work!
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Thanks Dave, your post on the resistor mod is fantastic!
I get the tail bearing cap wisdom, had planned on it, but the new blower (VC-Febi) already has that bearing sealed off.
Also, the tape that Skidub referenced looks like great stuff. In the plumbing aisle not with the other household weatherstrip.
Another dismal rainy day here makes the shop the best place to be, time to get back out there. _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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teej wrote: |
...the new blower (VC-Febi) already has that bearing sealed off... |
Awesome upgrade...keep it up, Febi! _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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Everything is back together and working great. I used the tape Skidub recommended on the free swinging flaps and camper tape on the others.
It is worth going in just to reseal the heater box flaps, the difference is dramatic and satisfying.
I partially drilled the block off plate similar to what Wildthings did in his thread. Seems great on first run but need to measure.
And after cleaning grounds and connections: Who knew the rear defroster switch had an illuminated icon??? _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: what else to do while replacing a front heater core |
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teej wrote: |
Who knew the rear defroster switch had an illuminated icon??? |
Shhhhhhhhh...only the cool kids know about it...
_________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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Jeffrey Lee Samba Member
Joined: February 04, 2014 Posts: 1488 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: What else to do while replacing a front heater core? |
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Anyone know if the two pre-formed heater core supply & return hoses (behind the dash, seen here in the photo from BenPlace) can be replaced with simple 5/8" ID heater hose? Or will the straight hose bind/kink?
If it'll work, know how long they are?
I'll be doing this job next spring and have some Gates Green Stripe straight hose left over from another project; would like to know how much to save for this project ... |
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vanagon1991 Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2007 Posts: 152 Location: Spring Grove, IL
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: What else to do while replacing a front heater core? |
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As long as your there messing with the heater hose, might as well drop in an off/on valve. Got his idea from Terry Kay. Eliminates hot foot in the summer. Worked great for me this last summer. Can't even see it behind the cover but can reach under and turn it on/off. Home depot part.
_________________ 1991 Tornado Red Vanagon Carat
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dasilva Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2020 Posts: 69
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: What else to do while replacing a front heater core? |
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After tearing apart both ends of my van for a Bostig engine upgrade, I'm working to put the pieces together. My van is a 1989 Westfalia, 2WD, Automatic Transmission.
I'm working on the front heater core.
Below is a picture of the front heater core before I removed.
Obviously, I should have taken more pictures!
Jeffrey Lee, thanks for your picture from BenPlace. I believe my, 'feed,' and 'return,' line are now properly routed
I am confused about:
1) How this clip is to be used. Are both feed and return hoses supposed to be squished into the clip?
2) How this bracket is to be used. Is it for the heater hoses? Or for just the feed or return? Is the electrical supposed to be routed through the bracket? I think it's supposed to work with the clip somehow.....
3)I feel more confused when I look at the GW drawing. What are items 13 and 14 relative to item 13A?
If anyone has tips or advice I'm all ears!
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dasilva Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2020 Posts: 69
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:22 am Post subject: Re: What else to do while replacing a front heater core? |
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Front heater core is back in. I'm reconnecting electrical. Anyone have insights to what the connection in my hand (pictured below) is for?
It's not for the side speaker. Passenger side power window???
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