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deprivation
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| but used 5/16 inch line, clamped down tight. that should be fine, right? |
You bet.
When I lived in Houston, I couldn't find 7mm line anywhere except for cloth-covered low-pressure line. As a side note, the dude at the VW parts place in Houston insisted that the cloth line is rated at 145 lbs. It is absolutely not rated for injection and I'm really glad I mistrusted his advice.
Several parts stores tried to sell me coolant hoses, transmission cooler hoses, washer hoses, low-press fuel line - you name it. Like the so-called "expert" at KAR Parts in Houston, advice should be viewed with some skepticism or, in some cases, contempt.
I ended up at an Advanced Auto Parts in the Barrio where a disgruntled employee sold me 10 feet of Goodyear 5/16 high-pressure fuel line for 10 bucks.
Take that, Karma!
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ftp2leta
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| Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Ijust |
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| sgtpepper wrote: |
| but used 5/16 inch line, clamped down tight. that should be fine, right? |
You bet.
When I lived in Houston, I couldn't find 7mm line anywhere except for cloth-covered low-pressure line. As a side note, the dude at the VW parts place in Houston insisted that the cloth line is rated at 145 lbs. It is absolutely not rated for injection and I'm really glad I mistrusted his advice.
Several parts stores tried to sell me coolant hoses, transmission cooler hoses, washer hoses, low-press fuel line - you name it. Like the so-called "expert" at KAR Parts in Houston, advice should be viewed with some skepticism or, in some cases, contempt.
I ended up at an Advanced Auto Parts in the Barrio where a disgruntled employee sold me 10 feet of Goodyear 5/16 high-pressure fuel line for 10 bucks.
Take that, Karma! |
Scary story!
5/16 is fine, the only thing is that they don't all (5/16) have the same ID and thickness. The one I use fit real tight. So if you are using 5/16 just make sure it fit thighly. If you can remove the hose easily out of an injector it's to loose (ID).
And pay attention to price, they is some junk out there.
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Wildthings
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A lot of regular fuel line says it is rated in the 150-200 psi range. This must be its ultimate burst pressure or something, I can't believe it could actually hold that kind of pressure for long. When I bought my 83 1/2 it had a piece of regular fuel line installed right after the pump. It was all cracked and leaking fuel badly.
I have had good luck running 5/16 FI line. I personally like the kind with a separate liner, it should prove to be more chemical resistant. It is harder to use though as the liner is stiff and hard to get started over fittings.
You can buy very good quality FI line from car dealers. The Subaru stuff seems excellent. |
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randiego
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| Does anyone know offhand what the length of the injector hose segment is? |
I was looking for the answer to "what is the length of the injector to fuel rail hose segment" myself today... so for all you guys (like me) that didn't "save an old one to measure the new ones" (I cut mine and tossed 'em)
I eyeballed it to be double the length of the fuel rail nipple or 1.75" (45mm).
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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I am replacing the fuel lines on a Syncro. I've read a few threads and every time some one logs in as a new vanagon owner within 3 posts someone always says "replace your fuel lines".
I'm trying to decide how much fuel line I will need to reseal a syncro wbx fuel system from the pump to the injectors and back to the sender. I can guestimate, but was wondering if someone documented how much fuel line is actually required to reline a 2wd and a syncro. Thank you.
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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Thanks Dave, no total? Figured as often as it comes someone might have totaled it out. For the syncro, I measured roughly 13 feet. I just held a tape measure along the existing hoses. Thanks again.
Edit, my Malware bytes blocks the link you provided. Something about a Trojan detected.
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Gruppe B
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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from bensplace.com
You will need about 10 to 12 feet of 5/16 FI hoses to cover the engine bay area, if you decide to do the fuel pump to firewall plastic junction line, you will need an extra 6 feet. About 20 x 5/16 FI clamps are also needed.
http://www.benplace.com/fuel_line.htm |
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dhaavers
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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^^^ Syncro...???
Not the same...just sayin.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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I am replacing the fuel lines on a Syncro. I've read a few threads and every time some one logs in as a new vanagon owner within 3 posts someone always says "replace your fuel lines".
I'm trying to decide how much fuel line I will need to reseal a syncro wbx fuel system from the pump to the injectors and back to the sender. I can guestimate, but was wondering if someone documented how much fuel line is actually required to reline a 2wd and a syncro. Thank you. |
Hi Mark:
At the risk of setting off a samba nuclear explosion, there are some people here who have documented the original syncro fuel lines to be extremely durable...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...p;start=20
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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I'm converting a 2wd to syncro. So now is the time to replace the hoses. I was just surprised as often that it comes up, I couldn't find a total in the essentials list. Of course I waited to the last minute to check. Thanks
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SteveMc
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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| I'm trying to decide how much fuel line I will need to reseal a syncro wbx fuel system from the pump to the injectors and back to the sender. I can guestimate, but was wondering if someone documented how much fuel line is actually required to reline a 2wd and a syncro. Thank you. |
As per GoWesty's kit, 15 feet. https://www.gowesty.com/product/fuel-delivery/4393/engine-fuel-line-replacement-kit?v=
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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Have a 15 foot section on the way. Thank you
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DanHoug
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Injector Hoses |
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i like to route the new fuel line OVER the intake runners...
- it is substantially cooler, the hose doesn't bake as much
- easier to keep an eye on the condition, leaks, chaffing
- easier to reach the T port for measurements
the lines i removed on my 87 snapped in two when i held each end of the old removed hose and brought the ends together. not formed a crack but snapped clean like spaghetti.
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