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nai Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 177 Location: malta
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:41 am Post subject: Reverse gear problem HELP! |
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anyone ever had a reverse problem after doing a straight axle conversion
Ive used the following solid mount http://www.buttysbits.com/uploads/1/6/1/3/16139242/3345199_orig.jpg
and the engine moved 1 cm to the rear end obviously, but it seems like the rod is taller now and the reverse gear seems to be more to the frontal part of the van ive tried adjusting the shifter several times the plate beneath it is in correct position and ive tried an other shift rod too and its all the same.
All other gears work perfectly and the reverse gear if selected from under vehicle meshes perfectly but when trying to select it from the leaver its impossible and you wont even hear the wrong meshing noise its just like there is not enough travel to select it
what you guys think?? _________________ I`d rather push a volkswagen than drive a ford.... |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3096 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Mark the hockey stick with a dab of white paint and manually shift the trans into reverse with the shifter unhooked.
That will tell you how much the hockey stick rotates and moves fore/aft to get into reverse from neutral.
Now, hook the coupler back up and have an assistant try to shift the trans from neutral into reverse while you are under the bus looking at the dab of paint on the hockey stick.
That will tell you whether the shifter is not rotating the hockey stick counter clockwise enough to engage reverse, or not moving the hockey stick fore/aft enough.
Once you can isolate the problem with it, it will be easier to devise a strategy to correct it.
You didn't use a Type 1 hockey stick, did you?
BTW, that trans mount is a bad choice. Not only will it transfer a lot of mechanical noise into the cabin, it also prevents any torsional movement of the front of the trans and can result in a broken nose cone due to excessive stresses. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
- Daniel Boorstin |
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nai Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 177 Location: malta
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Riff Raff wrote: |
Mark the hockey stick with a dab of white paint and manually shift the trans into reverse with the shifter unhooked.
That will tell you how much the hockey stick rotates and moves fore/aft to get into reverse from neutral.
Now, hook the coupler back up and have an assistant try to shift the trans from neutral into reverse while you are under the bus looking at the dab of paint on the hockey stick.
That will tell you whether the shifter is not rotating the hockey stick counter clockwise enough to engage reverse, or not moving the hockey stick fore/aft enough.
Once you can isolate the problem with it, it will be easier to devise a strategy to correct it.
You didn't use a Type 1 hockey stick, did you?
BTW, that trans mount is a bad choice. Not only will it transfer a lot of mechanical noise into the cabin, it also prevents any torsional movement of the front of the trans and can result in a broken nose cone due to excessive stresses. |
no i used a late split bus hockey stick. that is exacty what happened i think you under stood 100 percent..
because when you look from the inside its quite visible that the reverse position of the shift rod is quite impossible for the shifter to reach the position its actually at the rhs corner at the frontal part of the van (if you look through the adjustment hole).
all other gears shift ok if i shorten the rod by 1 cm would it make the other gears impossible to reach? _________________ I`d rather push a volkswagen than drive a ford.... |
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Riff Raff Shivering Sambian
Joined: October 25, 2004 Posts: 3096 Location: Alberta
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: |
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OK, I think I understand what you are saying.
That confuses me though, because if the engine (and trans) were shifted back 1 cm - and back being towards the back of the bus- then the shift rod and everything should be shifted 1 cm back as well.
That would mean that the socket that the shifter fits into in the shift rod should be farther to the rear, not to the front.
You are saying it is too far to the front right side, correct?
That seems like the whole thing is shifted forward??
You are certain that the set screws are fully engaging both dimples?
You don't have a longer coupler??
Kinda grasping at straws here.
I would not mess with the shift rod.
I would toss the solid mount and get either a Concept 1 adapter mount
http://store.concept1.ca/store/product/56970/Bus-Nose-Cone-50-59-COMP./
or a Wagens West lollypop mount.
http://www.wagenswest.com/partstore/index.php/pre-59-bus-nose-cone-adapter-kit.html
I run the Concept 1 mount, and with some shaving of the doughnut, the trans will line up perfectly. _________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge
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ricekooker Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2006 Posts: 1788 Location: Winter Park, FL
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I had the same issue when converting to a bug gearbox. It took a few hours of playing around with the forward shift rod before I was able to engage reverse.
I'm using the Wagenswest adapter. |
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