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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Yup brakes adjusted
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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More bleeding?


Air in the system will result in pedal getting higher and higher the more times you pump it. Then when you let off the pedal for more than a few seconds, the pedal the next time you push down on it, will be again be at same low spot. Plus the pedal will have a squishy feel to it.

With properly bled brake system you should notice the slightest increase between the first and second pump, but after that should be same height pedal. Slight change is due to the flex lines swelling a tiny amount with the increased pressure inside. Pedal will have a rock hard feel to it.

Which of the above describes your situation?



Sounds like the first one... Air in the system. Thats what I figured. Time to build a pressure bleeder.

Yes, all the blakes are adjusted, (all 4 corners are disks)
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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Sounds like the first one... Air in the system. Thats what I figured. Time to build a pressure bleeder.

Yes, all the blakes are adjusted, (all 4 corners are disks)


Helps to not pound on the pedal which can cause smaller harder to bleed air bubbles. With dual MC you should bleed the front axle first.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Hi guys, I have a 65 Baja that I just put new wheel cylinders and pads on. I went to bleed the brakes, but with all the bleeder valves closed, I can't seem to "build pressure" without pulling the parking brake. Any thoughts? I am using DOT 3.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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Hi guys, I have a 65 Baja that I just put new wheel cylinders and pads on. I went to bleed the brakes, but with all the bleeder valves closed, I can't seem to "build pressure" without pulling the parking brake. Any thoughts? I am using DOT 3.

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Dual circuit or single?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Honestly I don't know. How can I tell? I have not had to mess with a master brake cylinder before.

I can build pressure with the E brake pulled if that answers that question at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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Honestly I don't know. How can I tell? I have not had to mess with a master brake cylinder before.

I can build pressure with the E brake pulled if that answers that question at all.


Single circuit has one single hose from brake fluid reservoir to top of the master cylinder.

Dual circuit has two hoses.....
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

It is single circuit, no leaks in the system.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Did you adjust the brake shoes for a bit of drag from each?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Yup
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Are you first bleeding the wheel on rear axle farthest away from the MC?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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I have not had to mess with a master brake cylinder before.

I can build pressure with the E brake pulled if that answers that question at all.


When the E-brake is pulled, that's like manually moving the rear brake shoes (you don't have pads) closer to the drums. So that indicates to me that you do NOT have the brakes adjusted tight enough or correctly enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

It turned out I had a bleed valve a little open I didn't know about... Facepalm... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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It turned out I had a bleed valve a little open I didn't know about... Facepalm... Rolling Eyes


Main thing is you found it!! Thanks for the update!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

I'm just trying to flush the lines... Do the shoes need to be adjusted for this. Wasn't planning on de-airing just yet. Just want to get fresh fluid into the system.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

If you want to push out fluid, you do not want to be wasting your effort moving back and forth the brake wheel pistons and shoes instead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

I don't follow... I thought gravity would simply move the fluid, but even pressing the brake pedal doesn't get the fluid moving. I have a reservoir on top of my dual circuit MC. So I thought jacking up the front would help getting the fluid to the rear... But no joy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Do you have a copy of the VW Official Service Manual? If so which one?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Reply with quote

Does anyone know of a repair shop that will rebuild a 1967 bug master cylinder.
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