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mad97321
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 Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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Hi,
I couldn't find an answer to this question by searching. I am rebuilding my distributor for my engine (stock 1970 type 3 with FI distributor - vw-311-905-205AB), and it has a sleeve of felt stuff (like the kind that goes under the rotor on the top of the shaft) in the tube of the distributor body between the shaft bushings. I assume it holds oil up against the shaft or something. The stuff is kind of brittle and I am wondering if I should remove it, replace it (any good sources for it?), or leave it. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Glenn 
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Send me a PM with your mailing address and I can send you a replacement.
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| Does anyone know what this piece is called and what it is made from? I need to find a replacement. |
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udidwht
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| kawfee wrote: |
| Does anyone know what this piece is called and what it is made from? I need to find a replacement. |
You can make it out of the felt pads that go on the bottom of chair/stool legs (cut & shape to size). Available at your local Lowes and/or Home Depot.
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tasb
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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The wool felt is typically a non wear item. If the distributor is extra dirty or has been exposed to the open air for a long period it might need replacement. It doesn't have a name since it rarely gets paid attention too.
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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Are the specs for this available such as hardness/firmness, fiber content, etc?
I was thinking of getting this:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#8770K9
Will that work correctly? |
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UK Luke 72
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raygreenwood
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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Are the specs for this available such as hardness/firmness, fiber content, etc?
I was thinking of getting this:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#8770K9
Will that work correctly? |
No!...I would not use that. The temp rating of 200F is too low. Its not uncommon for distributors on long highway runs to be upwards to 250F. That felt is Rayon. While it starts as a cellulose product...it is polymerized. Its now largely a plastic.
While the wool felt only lists 200F...it will not melt, soften or compact and when its soaked with oil it has a higher temp range
Look under hard felt. You want something in the 55-60 durometer range
The S2-20 material in 1/4" will work fine. a 12" x 12" sheet is $23.02. You can punch out several hundred wicks from that sheet.
You can usually also buy 100% wool felt from JO-Ann Fabrics. It really does not matter how hard it is....as long as its not so hard that oil cannot seep through it when saturated...and it has to have enough compaction to stay put in the bore.
You can probably just get a snippet sample of 100% wool felt at the fabric store for free. Ray |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| Why not just offer Glenn some $$$ for them? He's said up there he has them! |
Why does he have to do everything the hard way.
This is just some of them I have.
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Pruneman99
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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He's not looking for the felt buttons, he's looking for the felt that goes inside the shaft. Little rectangle like 1x3 or so. I'm also looking for this replacement.
OP:
Glenn hooked me up some of the felt buttons cheap, and got them to me quick if you need those as well. |
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| UK Luke 72 wrote: |
| Why not just offer Glenn some $$$ for them? He's said up there he has them! |
That was 10 years ago. |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| He's not looking for the felt buttons, he's looking for the felt that goes inside the shaft. Little rectangle like 1x3 or so. I'm also looking for this replacement. |
D'oh
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| Glenn wrote: |
Why does he have to do everything the hard way.
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I guess I could just buy a distributor already built. That would be easy, expensive, and not much fun. |
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Glenn
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Glenn
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| Glenn wrote: |
Why does he have to do everything the hard way.
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I guess I could just buy a distributor already built. That would be easy, expensive, and not much fun. |
If you buy it from the right person, it will be done right and work like new. If you buy it from the wrong person... flip a coin. I've rebuild many that were "rebuilt" by someone else.
I do rebuilds for a dozen restoration shops including VW, Porsche and Mercedes Benz. These shops know it's its better to sub out the work to a specialty shop than to do it themselves.
There's more to taking it apart, cleaning and putting it back together.
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| Glenn wrote: |
Why does he have to do everything the hard way.
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I guess I could just buy a distributor already built. That would be easy, expensive, and not much fun. |
If you buy it from the right person, it will be done right and work like new. If you buy it from the wrong person... flip a coin. I've rebuild many that were "rebuilt" by someone else.
I do rebuilds for a dozen restoration shops including VW, Porsche and Mercedes Benz. These shops know it's its better to sub out the work to a specialty shop than to do it themselves.
There's more to taking it apart, cleaning and putting it back together. |
Yes, you keep saying that. It's time to learn. |
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Glenn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| Yes, you keep saying that. It's time to learn. |
Lets just hope your transmission doesn't need a rebuild.
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| kawfee wrote: |
| Yes, you keep saying that. It's time to learn. |
Lets just hope your transmission doesn't need a rebuild. |
I hope it does. I don't know if I am ready to buy the tools to rebuild a transmission. I suppose when that time comes, it comes. |
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heimlich
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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Oooh la la. I love it when I see a Bosch number. |
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David_nc_72std
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Distributor shaft felt sleeve question |
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Can someone that has one give the actual dimensions of the new Bosch felt pad?
Interesting to see a discussion of this part. At the beginning of the year I asked one of the people who routinely advertises rebuilt distributors what material to use for a replacement, and their response was that it wasn't needed. Guess I need to find some suitable felt and take the distributor back apart.
Is the felt installed in a v-shape, so it presses up against the rotating shaft, or rolled up into a tubular shape? I seem to recall it having a crease, like it was folded, but the pieces were crumpling so badly it was hard to tell. |
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