4 Leg middle seat.

[Concept1]

I saw a 2/3 middle seat for sale on the weekend, and I'm wanting to know if it would be correct for my 54' Kombi. I didn't have my Camera with me, but here is some details.

-Correct pebbled black vinyl.
-4 legs, evenly spaced.
-Large "coil" type springs
-No grab handle, no armrest.
-The backrest looked quite thin, and very straight.

Any thoughts or pictures of what one should look like?

... yes I did a search, and looked at Barndoor.dk. 4 legs don't seem to be very common.

Thanks!

[campingbox]

Sounds like it could be, but without pictures it will be hard to tell for certain. Does your bus have the seat mounting points in the right location to accept a 2/3 middle seat?

[Concept1]

It might have... The floor looks a bit like an archeology project.

It sat for a lot of years without a sunroof cover, so the floors are a little worse for wear.

I was thinking that if the seat was correct, I would just install seat mounts for the seat.

[campingbox]

Looks like it took a full width middle seat originally. I think I can see the forward bracket right by the cargo door edge.

[Yustrn]

[Barndoor Mafia]

As dean of students at the Institute of Modern Barndoors, I agree with Professor and Archeologist Eh Greg. Not very common for buses of those years to come with short middle seats. I have seen them in early BD's. This fossil needs to be excavated at HAZ-RAFF Restorations! Eh Greg, aren't you visiting this fine institute soon??

[Concept1]

Here are a few pics, maybe this will help.... If it is for a 54' should it not have a grab handle?

Any thoughts?

[Lind]

[BeaterBarndoor]

it looks the part to me. just quickly looked at my 6 leg frame and the build looks the same. the spring section is put together slightly different but not far off. im not sure when they changed some of that stuff. i think i would believe it to be real deal. pretty cool.
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[UZI]

i had a seat from portugal and it looked very similar. does it have a wood frame?
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[Concept1]

I'm located in Canada. The seat came from a VW collector here, who had it for 15+ years.

No part of the frame seems to be wood. There is a pressed cardboard insert on the rear facing part under the vinyl, that looks like door panel material.

[Lind]

I am thinking that might be a '50 or '51 kombi seat.

since the seat is not in one of the weird CKD or local manufacture markets, it is more than likely of german origin. the backrest appears to be rounded at the top corners, which would leave no provision for grab handles which you see on '52+ seats. it has no wood, and the backrest doesn't appear to be removeable like the portuguese seats.

that is a monster middle seat. super rare. including this seat, I only know of 5 pre-'59 2/3 middle seats. 3 of those seats are '56-'58 standard seats, one is a '51 standard seat, and this '50-'51 kombi seat.

here is a picture of the '51 standard seat:

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[Concept1]

So now this begs the question.... what am I going to do with this ultra-rare 50-51' middle seat?

What kind of money is it worth, roughly?

I already bought it, and it won't really work for me. Anyone need one? I'd be willing to work a deal on a 6 leg if someone has one just laying around.

[Lind]

[Scotty]

Is that seat upholstered correctly for a 50-51 short middle seat? I thought they all had the ribbed seat material? I must admit I'm not sure how many kombis I've seen with that style seat though
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[Lind]

[Scotty]

Yeah I meant the pleats. I know that kombis have plain seat covers (my 52 is a kombi), but for some reason I had it in my head that all the super early buses with a short middle seat had pleated covers. I think it's because I've never seen a kombi seat for that age bus, the only ones I've seen have been standards like AB 51
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[BeaterBarndoor]

i think one of the better ways to determine the year would be to have Drew check on the spring section of his 51 . or i suppose any earlier bus seat for that matter i guess. these are the springs on my 54 seat .i dont have a post BD 6 leg to look at for changes but this short seat could also be post BD seeing that it doesnt have the cross springs attatching the main springs in this photo.

edit!! then again, after thinking/rereading Linds point of the rounded top corners sound more logical for the earlier seat.

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keep it and bring to this years ECAMAS trail bash and middle seat theater.

[Drew Ogden]

Here ya go. The lack of grab bar on the other one is confusing. I am not sure what to make of that.