Window rubber replacement

[markbozich]

Hello, I could not find anything on the forum. I have a 78 VW Beetle and am I missing something on replacing the inside window rubber? I have the window down and I try to force the lip on the rubber on the lip of the inner window. Just when I think it is all linked together...I roll up the window and the rubber just comes up with it. Any help would be appreciated. I am installing a brand new piece and I am now frustrated at what looks to be an easy job. Thanks!! Mark

[John M.]

I believe you need to disassemble the door / remove vent wing to replace most of the inner/outer scrapers.
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[piemat]

Are you talking about the window scraper? It's a bigger job than just rolling down the window. I hate that the only advice I can offer is to do a search, I know it has been discussed several times before. I have no experience in replacing them.
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[markbozich]

holy cow...what a chore for such a small part. Thanks for the reply!!! Mark

[jamesdagg]

http://www.vw-resource.com/vw-resource.com_non_ssl/windows_gogo.html

http://www.thebugshop.org/gotech.htm
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'71 Super rear inside defrost vents no longer available

[ninja90177]

I tackled this job about 5 months or so ago.

It's not THAT difficult, but it is time consuming. Plan on half a day and have a friend around. You'll need another set of hands.

A couple of things to be wary of:

1. The clips in those scrapers can be mighty fussy at times. I broke half of them off the first one, and 1 off the second one (which I kept in the door).

2. After installing the outer scraper (if that's one of the things you're doing) keep a real close eye on the chrome molding, as it can hinder the install of the vent window later on.

3. Toss some talc/baby powder on the fresh scrapers to help in rolling the window up for the first couple of days.

4. Be careful that crud doesn't get into the regulator once it's out. Mine caught a bit of something and it broke about a month ago after struggling to get the window up a few times. Now the window's up permanently until my new regulator gets here.

Good luck and be sure to take a couple of breaks in there. It's not too bad.
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[mnussbau]

[Cusser]

I posted my own instructions that I used for my '71 Convertible window rubber here a few years ago, do a Search. It was in capitals (how I typed it years earlier), and Glenn yelled at me. So I'm afraid to re-paste/re-post it. Yes, the baby powder or talc is necessary to prevent the new soft rubber from "grabbing" the window.
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[markbozich]

Yes, my car is a 78 Super Beetle Vert with only 38.7 one owner original miles. Everybody is great on this board with their posts. I am not anxious to go out today, but I need to get this installed.

[markbozich]

here is a picture of my car on another thread here.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115478&highlight=

[mnussbau]

Cusser, here's the text of your old thread. I copied and pasted it into Word, then did a 'Format-Change Case' on it.
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1971 VW convertible window scrapers and rubber seal installation

Inside scrapers
Vent scraper
Probably best just to notch and cut off most of bottom lip of replacement scraper and press/glue in as this avoids necessity of removing window and vent frame.

Front window scraper
Remove outside scraper. Lower window completely. Remove old inside scraper. Using two people, attach lower lip into groove starting at rear of window, sliding replacement scraper forward as you go using 1 x 4 inch piece of sheet metal with 1/4 inch lip and screwdrivers. When lower lip is in and rubber fully forward to the vent window, pull on upper lip and place into groove. Replace outer scraper. Use baby powder on upper portion of scraper (inside and outside) to reduce "grab" onto window when lowering.

Quarter window scraper
Remove outer scraper first. (note: if two people are available, a procedure similar to the above front window procedure of starting the bottom lip, then sliding scraper forward will probably work.) Otherwise, remove quarter window; remove two plastic caps then two 10mm head bolts w/ washers. Roll window halfway down then lift up to remove. Remove old inner scraper rubber and replace with new scraper rubber by installing lower lip first into groove, then pulling upper lip into groove. Grease window regulator, channel, and groove under window if necessary at this time. To re-install window, crank handle most of the way up, align groove with clip and back of frame with channel, then lower. Re-install two 10mm head bolts/washers loosely. Re-install outside scraper, then align, tightening two 10mm head bolts when aligned. Replace plastic caps. Use baby powder on upper portion of scraper (inside and outside) to reduce "grab" onto window when lowering.

Outside scrapers
Rebuild scrapers one at a time to eliminate confusion.
Install inside scrapers (if doing) before re-installing outer scrapers.
Outside scrapers are held in place by small #1 phillips screws: two for quarter window and three for front window. (on the 1971 driver's window the middle screw is slightly larger thread.) After removing intact scraper, support on piece of wood and drill out rivets with 1/8 inch bit and remove rivet pieces to remove steel backplate. Remove rubber insert or inserts by sliding out; lubrication with glycerine may make this easier. Cut new rubber pieces to fit by matching with old pieces. Lubricate strips and new rubber pieces well with glycerine. Slide in (for quarter windows) or lubricate well and firmly push both pieces directly in (for front). Wash off glycerine with water. Hold backplate in place and drill hole thru rubber piece; rivet from backpiece side using 1/8 inch short rivets. Then hold in place, drill other holes and sandwich rubber in place using other rivets. Wash off glycerine with water, then reinstall. Use baby powder on upper portion of scraper (inside and outside) to reduce "grab" onto window when lowering.


Quarter window upright seals
Remove small phillips screw and rectangular plate near bottom of seal. Slide down old seal. Lubricate frame channel and replacement rubber seal lip well with glycerine and push up into frame (note: this might require two people). Wash off excess glycerine with water. The screw is about 11.5mm up from the bottom of the frame; drill a hole thru the seal at that place, slide up small rectangular bracket, and re-install screw (it's head will pierce the outer part of the seal).
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[Cusser]

[markbozich]

You guys are awesome!! I appreciate the messages on how to get the rubber installed. The baby powder really did help. It is installed and I am happy with the end product.

Yep. can you believe that... The rubber just gave out and it just came loose from the door. So, I figured, I would put on a new piece.

The car is the Peach red metallic Champagne Edition. Those miles are hard by pulling it in and out of the garage just to wash it and to listen to her purr.

Stay warm!!

Mark

[Roger Power]

by the way, any of you guys knows how difficult is to change the front window rubber seal from a super beetle convertible???

[markbozich]

I don't know, but good luck with it. I hope it is easier than those darn window scrappers! Mark