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Trevor P Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2004 Posts: 863 Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Checked my (late) Feb 53 BD and it has all 5 original 16's. Lemmerz welded without divots. Date codes are all 1/53. _________________ 53 Canadian standard oval
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53kombi Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 254 Location: Hot and Humid, Southeast
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have 4 of the original wheels from my kombi that was produced June 17th of '53. They are all Lemmerz, welded, no divot, and dated 2/53. My spare that I picked up is a 1/54 Lemmerz that is welded with no divot. Anyone have a 2/53 Lemmerz, welded with no divot in good shape that they want to trade for my 1/54? _________________ Looking for these items for my June '53 kombi:
Barndoor 25hp case 20-060XXXX (June '53)
Barndoor Eberspacher gas heater. ('53-'55)
1 barndoor 16" wheel (Lemmerz dated 2/53)
NOS german 25hp/36hp oil pump
Zwitter intake manifold |
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malik Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2005 Posts: 162
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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When did v.w. stop making the 16s .Was it in 55 and do they have to be stamped v.w. I have been looking at some, but they mite be opel. The stamping on them says 4.50x16 not 3.50x16 thanks _________________ If I see that car again I'm gonna kick its mirrors off!!!! |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69829 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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They made replacements past 1955 but 16s stopped with Barndoor production.
Unless I am remembering wrong, my 1/55 16s on my 2/55 Bus don't have a VW stamp, they just say Lemmerz and the size and have a couple other unknown stamps.
4.50x16 is not for a VW.
Do they look the same? Those might be useful if you want to use 16" radial tires. _________________ How to Post Photos
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2179 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:54 am Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Those might be useful if you want to use 16" radial tires. |
That is true, but if they are opel, then the diameter where the hubcap goes on, is slightly smaller. VW hubcaps wil NOT fit on these wheels !!! _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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das20v Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2006 Posts: 147 Location: Garden Grove, Cali USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:54 pm Post subject: Same as Beetle? |
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I might have missed it in this thread, but are 16" Barndoor wheels the same as Beetle? That was part of the original question brought up.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69829 Location: Phoenix Metro
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das20v Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2006 Posts: 147 Location: Garden Grove, Cali USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
The widths are different.
Barndoor = 3.50x16
Beetle = 3.00x16 |
Thanks! Exactly what I wa looking for. |
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sunnybug84 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Meinkot/Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I was going through the 16's today and found an odd 3,50x16 KPZ rim. Its rivited and the vw hubcap fits perfectly. It came with other Barndoor wheels but has a slightly different offset then the other later rims. It looks more like a bug 16" offset but its denfinetly a 3,50. Its dated either 1/50 or 11/50, kinda hard to tell.
Does anybody have an idea whats up with that rim?
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:42 am Post subject: |
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sunnybug84 wrote: |
Hi,
I was going through the 16's today and found an odd 3,50x16 KPZ rim. Its rivited and the vw hubcap fits perfectly. It came with other Barndoor wheels but has a slightly different offset then the other later rims. It looks more like a bug 16" offset but its denfinetly a 3,50. Its dated either 1/50 or 11/50, kinda hard to tell.
Does anybody have an idea whats up with that rim?
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the size would also be right for a 356 wheel? do you have any pictures of the wheel? _________________ regards
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sunnybug84 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Meinkot/Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, no pics right now. But it looks exactly like an 3,00x16 bug wheel. No slots or anything else. |
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sunnybug84 Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Meinkot/Germany
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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Now with some pictures, maybe that helps.
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kalymnos Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2010 Posts: 112 Location: Hamburg/Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:23 am Post subject: Re: 16" wheel question |
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What car is this rim for?
Markings: Lemmerz, 3,50Dx16, 1647, "Horse"
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69829 Location: Phoenix Metro
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: 16" wheel question |
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looks like 10/63 to me _________________ drive your split. |
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Brian_1952 Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2005 Posts: 700
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: 16" wheel question |
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sled wrote: |
looks like 10/63 to me |
Yep _________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2179 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:07 am Post subject: Re: 16" wheel question |
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the color makes it look military surplus. BD correct specs.
In any case, please do save the Firestone Phoenix. gorgeous tire and worth saving for display. out of production for 50 yrs.
it seems as if it is a 5.00-16 though, which would be the split beetle size.
interesting that the wheel rim has what looks to be the deep square indentation at the valve, meaning it is made for use with tubeless tires. I think og BD era wheels just had a shallow recess for properly seating the tube's valve stem. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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bubba Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2004 Posts: 2531 Location: Florida
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2179 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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kalymnos Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2010 Posts: 112 Location: Hamburg/Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: 16" wheel question |
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Thanks for the input.
The wheel will be kept untouched; the tyre is indeed 5.00-16
@bubba: the pony symbol is a reference to the Westfalia logo? ...means you have more information, please? |
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