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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've got them installed on my '87 GL 2WD, but haven't driven it yet to comment on ride, handling, rebound, front-end dive during hard-braking, etc.

Height listed here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6639594#6639594, from my build thread.

19+ inches sounds high. Is that what they are supposed to be or do you have shims too. An inch and a half lift would be like 17.5" wouldn't it? Or do they need to settle? 19" just sounds high for a 2wd camper.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've got them installed on my '87 GL 2WD, but haven't driven it yet to comment on ride, handling, rebound, front-end dive during hard-braking, etc.

Height listed here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6639594#6639594, from my build thread.

19+ inches sounds high. Is that what they are supposed to be or do you have shims too. An inch and a half lift would be like 17.5" wouldn't it? Or do they need to settle? 19" just sounds high for a 2wd camper.

Seems fairly common, see earlier in this thread:
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Ride height as measure from wheel centerline to fender lip is as follows:

Front: 18.5"
Rear: 18.5" (slightly less on the left side as previously mentioned)

So i'm not far off of that, and this is on a fresh install. I may have spacers in the rear (I know I ordered them), but they wouldn't add much.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind this thread was started in 2008. The springs GW sells today are different than the ones they sold 5 years ago. Your numbers now may vary from 5 years ago.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Keep in mind this thread was started in 2008. The springs GW sells today are different than the ones they sold 5 years ago. Your numbers now may vary from 5 years ago.


PDXWesty, did you end up getting the newer 1.5" lift springs? I'm installing tomorrow and am wondering if I need to put in spacers in the rear too. Will of course be including the ball joint spacers...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Keep in mind this thread was started in 2008. The springs GW sells today are different than the ones they sold 5 years ago. Your numbers now may vary from 5 years ago.


PDXWesty, did you end up getting the newer 1.5" lift springs? I'm installing tomorrow and am wondering if I need to put in spacers in the rear too. Will of course be including the ball joint spacers...


I never did install GW springs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK thanks PDX...

I'm interested in feedback from those who installed the gowesty 1.5" springs...I'm installing them this week in my '84 westy, and am wondering if I need to use a pad in the RR to counter the highest corner, the FR.

Right now with stock springs my van sits at: LF: 16 1/8; LR: 16 1/2; RF: 16 7/8; RR: 16 1/2.

So my rear is even, but the FR is the highest of them all. Is this due to westy lean? I would expect the LR to be lower than the RR, but its not...Would a gowesty 1/2" pad on the RR spring level things out?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK thanks PDX...

I'm interested in feedback from those who installed the gowesty 1.5" springs...I'm installing them this week in my '84 westy, and am wondering if I need to use a pad in the RR to counter the highest corner, the FR.

Right now with stock springs my van sits at: LF: 16 1/8; LR: 16 1/2; RF: 16 7/8; RR: 16 1/2.

So my rear is even, but the FR is the highest of them all. Is this due to westy lean? I would expect the LR to be lower than the RR, but its not...Would a gowesty 1/2" pad on the RR spring level things out?

Thanks


How did you measure? westy tank full of water? empty cabinets?...camping gear?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question!

Empty everything ~ no water, no gear, no humans, etc....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently installed the GoWesty 1.5" lift springs, after reading a diverse range of experiences (which almost made me return the springs instead of installing them!), so I thought I would share my own experience.

'85 Vanagon Camper 2WD. Height from hub to fender ranged from 16-16.5" with the old springs. After installing the new ones, ride height increased by a solid 2", so now sitting at 18-18.5". At the same time I installed new OEM Sachs/Boge shocks from Bus Depot.

Installation of the springs was pretty pricey, took a professional shop 4 hours. I installed the shocks myself. The westy now drives so much tighter, not too soft not too hard. Hardly tips when cornering, and dips far less when breaking. It used to feel a bit like a boat. It's been about 2 weeks, and so far so good.

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Now I just gotta find some bigger wheels and tires...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to highjack the thread but has anyone installed the GW lift springs on a tiptop?

Contemplating using them on my 2wd Doka Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im in the process of installing GW 2wd lift springs in the rear of my tin top. I have GW zero lifts on the front with Koni shocks. That brought the front up considerably. I had syncro.org springs in the rear and with the zeros it was almost level. I want to replace the rears and GW suggested using the lift spring in the rear after I told them I have a subaru motor along with GW steel plate bumpers and the hitch.
Ive got one side on now and its looking a bit higher than the front but I also have my drive train out right now. Im worried its going to be too high and effect my CV joints. They did tell me at GW that I could swap them out with zeros if I wasent happy. I was going to get matching konis for the rear but found out they are too short for the springs. So now Im looking at Rancho rear shocks and worried that if i switch back to the zero lift springs.... Ill be stuck with too long a shock . Maybe I should start a new topic asking that question.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The westy now drives so much tighter, not too soft not too hard. Hardly tips when cornering, and dips far less when breaking. It used to feel a bit like a boat. It's been about 2 weeks, and so far so good.


Thanks for the post ezee. I'm ordering the 1.5" lift springs from go westy today along with Bilstein shocks and 16" rims. Can't wait to see how it changes the handling and ride.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The westy now drives so much tighter, not too soft not too hard. Hardly tips when cornering, and dips far less when breaking. It used to feel a bit like a boat. It's been about 2 weeks, and so far so good.


Thanks for the post ezee. I'm ordering the 1.5" lift springs from go westy today along with Bilstein shocks and 16" rims. Can't wait to see how it changes the handling and ride.


This is exactly my setup since summer 2013 and results and I love it. Have Yokohama Geolandars on the rims. We've put probably 4000 miles on the setup. I do drive a bit more slowly on curves ~ we have a big sweeping 90 degree turn in the road home and I used to do 65 on it, now slow down to 55 or so. It took me a bit of getting used to so now I'm more confident, but the improvement in handling is well worth the slight change in feeling of height and stability.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The westy now drives so much tighter, not too soft not too hard. Hardly tips when cornering, and dips far less when breaking. It used to feel a bit like a boat. It's been about 2 weeks, and so far so good.


Thanks for the post ezee. I'm ordering the 1.5" lift springs from go westy today along with Bilstein shocks and 16" rims. Can't wait to see how it changes the handling and ride.

This'll be different shocks though than ezee's, and i've heard some folks complain about the Bilstein HDs with lift-springs - not clear to me what the best combo is.

I have the GW lift springs, but i'm NOT happy with the ride - but I'm hoping that is because of my shocks. So I keep wondering which shocks I should order (front+back) so that my lift is more drive-worth...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump!

Could anybody chime in with what shocks they're running on combination with the GW lift-springs, and if you're happy with the results?

Thank you!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll tell you that I have h.d. bilstein with 1 1/2" lift and I am NOT content with that combo, way too soft and springy front end.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a number of changes, including the GW Springs, Koni adjustable shocks, a larger front Whiteline sway bar, and added a rear Addco bar to balance things out. This combo, along with the E-rated Nokians, have improved the ride of a heavy van considerably. Take note though, the Konis are shorter by enough to make shock extensions necessary, but relatively easy with a donor pair of shocks. I have a picture in my gallery of a rear extension design I fashioned after some Tristar Eric made.

The combination is fantastic, firm but not harsh. The wallowing I experienced with the Bilstiens is gone, and the van tracks well. It took some fine tuning, but all is well afterwards.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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a larger front Whiteline sway bar, and added a rear Addco bar to balance things out.


Where did you find the Whiteline Sway Bar? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drive some vans with different setups.
Suspension feel is subjective and many online descriptions don't match the general consensus.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luVWagn wrote:
Bump!

Could anybody chime in with what shocks they're running on combination with the GW lift-springs, and if you're happy with the results?

Thank you!


1.5" GW lift springs, HD Bilstein Shocks, 16" GW alloys, and Michelin Defender tires = HEAVEN

Its like riding on glass.
Higher ride has been nice for ground clearance camping
Saved $ on my Subaru conversion because I didn't need to buy a shortened oil pan since my gnd clearance was high enough
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