GoWesty vs Van-Cafe springs

[insyncro]

What the Smurf is showing is exactly what I am trying to explain.
The extra load has collasped the progressive spring at its resting state.
The Bostig setup he has is much lighter than the SVX motors I use.
You can imagine what a Syncro Westy with an SVX and tubular bumpers would look like.
Shimming will level, but not do anything for the low spring rate.
The suppleness of the progressive spring is in the first 10% of its compression, needing more and more force to compress it further.
It will work, but the ride will surely suffer. Pogoing in the rear and porpusing in the front are the end results at speeds over 55mph. This happens in many racecars when the wrong springs are used for the track conditions. At higher speeds it becomes extremely dangerous as grip will be lost. Not that big of a deal here, just wanted to point it out.

I don't have any experience with the Van Cafe springs, but will do a little investigating and report back.


dylan

[ericos_bob]

Very interesting thread. Have just bought a set of gowesty 2" lift springs myself and did wonder of the effects of these progressive spring height on comfort under different loads. Lets say you are to continue adding weight to your syncro beyond what has been added say by the svx conversion do you find a " sweet spot" under a certain load? Of course benefit of a 2" lift can be kissed goodbye.

how about pro's and con's of linear vs progressive springs. Would you say for driving situations where ground clearance must be maintained moving over rough terrain progressive springs would be the go and where good articulation is required the linear springs would be a better choice? Also what are peoples opinions on seikel springs?

[blueridgedog]

I have a wolfsburg weekender that needs new springs, the rear is sagging and the front is too proud. I do not want a lift and don't need extra capacity as the wolfsburg lacks the heavy camping gear. I may go with GW, but the extra lift makes me think about the small car set as a better option.

[JPrato]

For stock ride height go with the small car springs. We put them on our 83.5 Westy this year and couldn't be more pleased. No more saggy rear and it still goes in and out of the garage.

http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29783
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87 Syncro Tin Top project
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06 Subaru 2.5 turbo in waiting
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[Alaric.H]

Why not put a 450lb eibach on the passenger side and a 475 on the drivers side that should even out a westy.

[axeman]

can you guys not get hold of seikle springs in the states? as that is what i am runing along with ome (old man emu) shocks, they work very well together on my synrcro doka.
i think that seikle do make a 2wd lit as well that is avalible in europe at least.
neil

[insyncro]

I am using Seikles on one of my vans.
They must be imported and the cost is much more than what is available here.
The low dollar vs. Euro doesn't help right now.

dylan

[syncrodoka]

I have heard that seikle springs are very stiff. I have the VanCafe springs and OME shocks in my syncro doka and they are too stiff for such a light platform. A softer spring will allow the tires to stay in contact with the dirt longer with the better articulation that they would allow.
VC springs and syncro.org springs are the same.

[deides]

re: gowesty springs

gowesty: 499$

vancafe 415$

from the posts here looks like gowesty is the way to go, seeing as its only a 21$ difference per spring.

But, are there other alternatives for 2wd that will lift the van 1.5 inchies or so higher?

[j_dirge]

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[Jon_slider]

I have Syncro.org springs and OME shocks on an 86 Syncro Westy. My fender lip to center hub heights are 19" after 3 years installed.

I am very happy. I LOVE my suspension.

And I spoke to Steve at SDM, he is the source of Syncro.org springs.. He explained that early springs had an issue with compressing, but mine have not had that issue. And he is coming out with newly redesigned springs, state of the art. Built in a way that will not be subject to the sagging issue of the earlier Syncro.org springs..

I like supporting small local businesses, I would buy Syncro.org springs from Van Cafe.

I realize many of the posters in this thread want springs for 2wd, and that is exactly what Van Cafe is planning to distribute, as soon as Steve's redesigned springs come out..

[tozovr]

Van Cafe Sells both the H&R/GW Springs as well as the Syncro.org springs.
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[SCP_Austin]

Can i put syncro springs on my 84 westy? I want a syncro, so I am thinking of building my westy up with stuff i can switch over (or heaven forbid i convert it syncro).


Any help is appreciated.

[PDXWesty]

I believe the front syncro springs are actually shorter than the 2wd. I'm not sure about the rears.
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[WonkaVan]

Which should I purchase GW 2wd 1.5 lift springs or Vancafe´s regular 2wd springs? I ask not because of the product quality but of the height issue, crosswinds, etc. With the Hightop the van is 8 feet tall from the ground. There is no camping equipment. I am leaning toward GW springs and I am just curious if 1.5 inches will really pose any problems. Any suggestions would be very helpful and Thankful on this day of Thanks!