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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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That is good to hear. I stopped in to a local AZ this afternoon, they ordered one after seeing what I was shipped--she said some funny stuff, actually--
anyway it is expected in store on Wed. So maybe no big deal. _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Navy_Flyer wrote: |
Installed my new GP Sorenson FI's today. Took about 40 minutes. Pressured up the fuel system (primed it 4 or 5 times at the ignition switch), checked for leaks - none. Started it - and it fired right up - very smooth idle. Took it for a test drive, and I perceived much better pick up from a stop, and better throttle response overall. Maybe just my delusions of grandeur. But it runs great. Now, the fuel mileage will be tested on the next long drive to see if I get any better economy. |
Navy..had the same results and very smooth with a strong improvement in performance. Change in MPG..hard to tell as it had been very cold..certainly not less and maybe a mile or two better. Not bad for the price.
I think the WBX engines like the disc injectors. Look forward to your report. |
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mattcfish Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2006 Posts: 565 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Wow, didn't know this thread was still going. I've swapped the rebuilt Bosch and Tomco/Lucas injectors a few times since I started this. Fuel economy is about the same, still running them, still work great. _________________ 71 Bay Window
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:32 am Post subject: |
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So it seems we are experiencing the last gasps of a dying supply chain at AutoZone with the Sorenson 800-1206 injectors. After I was shipped only 3 correct injectors, the local store was unable to help me--can't get 'em--and phone support tells the same tale. Sounds like the O'Reilly's part is the better option now.
Is the Oreilly BWD injector truly the same as the Sorenson just in a different box? Is it ok to mix and match, running the 3 good Sorensons and one BWD? If anyone has the O'Reilly's 57530P, can they please inspect to see if it has the Delphi D1600BA part number on the injector itself? _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I would not mix and match the injectors. The O'Reilly 57530 injectors are pintle nozzle and the GP Sorensen are disc type. Not the same.
I would return the AZ injectors and get four 57530 injectors new from O'Reilly. |
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: |
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AtlasShrugged wrote: |
I would not mix and match the injectors. The O'Reilly 57530 injectors are pintle nozzle and the GP Sorensen are disc type. Not the same.
I would return the AZ injectors and get four 57530 injectors new from O'Reilly. |
Here is a pic:
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BWD0/5753...;ppt=C0024
Looks the same as the Sorensen. AZ said they are interchangeable. So I'm in the "trust but verify" phase. Plummerdesign wrote this on March 7:
"Even if Autozone cannot get them online, the same injectors are available from O'reillys Part # 57530P, at the same price (online).
Cheers,
Jeffery "
So what is the real deal? Might have to buy one to compare them.
Edit: have one of the 57530P coming. Will post update later. _________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:08 am Post subject: |
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It is worth a try..the disc injectors really seem to work well.
A1lf back on page four got some O'Reilly injectors and they looked like this:
I had 57530 ordered previously, along side 800-1206N. The image on the websites for 57530 is incorrect. The injectors don’t appear to be the same. Interestingly enough, there is "1200 RIN-206" labeled on the 57530. The 5730 are green-top traditional injectors.
So I am confused as to what you get when you order from O'Reilly. Worth a shot. |
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a1fa Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2011 Posts: 585 Location: Central Arkansas, United States
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I have about 200 miles on 57530. They work. Can't speak for longevity or quality long term. _________________ Learn to ride. Ride to learn. |
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teej Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2010 Posts: 897 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Local O'Reilly's had the 57530P this afternoon. Seemed easily available. It appears to be identical to the GP Sorensen unit, and looks different from the "no P" model a1fa posted. Compared to the Sorensen 800-1206N, the one I got has the same D1600BA part number on the injector itself, instructions are the same, address on box is the same, etc.
Thanks to I think plummerdesign for first alerting to this part.
_________________ 1986+ Wolfsburg Weekender Pop-Top 2.3 WBX Manual Trans |
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countrybicycle Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2012 Posts: 55 Location: Birmingham, AL
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Pintle or Disk |
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So is the. O'Reilly 57530P pintle or disk?
From what I understand, pintle is OE spec and the disk is a better design as it is self cleaning to a degree? |
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AtlasShrugged Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2008 Posts: 1605 Location: Decatur, Ga. USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Pintle or Disk |
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zoovegroover wrote: |
So is the. O'Reilly 57530P pintle or disk?
From what I understand, pintle is OE spec and the disk is a better design as it is self cleaning to a degree? |
Looks like the 57530P disc injector is the same as the AZ disc injector..a great find at less than $30 each with the usual discount codes.
The disc injectors don't clog and stay clean by design. They have a reputation of a poorer injector spray pattern. The white diffuser in the nozzle must help. I have no complaints with performance or fuel economy on my disc injectors.
Tomco sells the same injector for about $68 plus shipping. They have a nice write up on their website about the different injector tips and styles.
http://www.tomco-inc.com/Tech_Tips/ttt37.pdf |
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a1fa Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2011 Posts: 585 Location: Central Arkansas, United States
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Good to know! Thank you! I'll be ordering a batch of those injectors as well as I have been hoarding parts. _________________ Learn to ride. Ride to learn. |
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outwesty Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2006 Posts: 1074 Location: Tahoe City
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I just thought I would pass this along. A set of 4 injectors from autozone part number 800-1206N are available for just over $100 shipped when you use the 20% off discount code SEPTEMBER20 |
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Skip Laubach Samba Member
Joined: December 13, 2011 Posts: 237 Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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outwesty wrote: |
I just thought I would pass this along. A set of 4 injectors from autozone part number 800-1206N are available for just over $100 shipped when you use the 20% off discount code SEPTEMBER20 |
Done. Plus a Spectra fuel tank. Free shipping! Ordered Saturday and on the front porch this evening! _________________ Skip
1984 Westy 1.9 case WBXR Manual (now with 2200cc GoWesty kit)
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Just pulled the trigger on the AZ GP Sorensen along with extra seals.
I think the 26th is the last day for this promo.
Delivered to me at $111.58
I'll run 'em while I send off the OE for tweaking.
Hopefully the four from AZ will all be the same.
I'm all in for the, cheap is as cheap does, thing. But...
Side note is that I recently changed the AFM with a (new) unit and changed the O2 sensor. It runs much better but seems a little spitty at idle. After the new injectors, I'll put it on a sniffer for some fine tuning. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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t3 kopf Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2012 Posts: 1115 Location: over by 'der
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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i installed a set of these just now and they wont fire. i noticed there is a little square plastic piece inside the firing end of them. is that supposed to come out somehow? i dont wanna pull it out and then find out i ruined it. i thought it was weird that there would be plastic inside these. _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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t3 kopf Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2012 Posts: 1115 Location: over by 'der
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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i just called the manufacturer and he was VERY quick to tell me to take them all 4 back to the store for being defective. that is not a very good thing to hear. he said "get 4 more and try again". how could i randomly get 4 bad injectors at the same time? _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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Perales Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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NavyVW wrote: |
i noticed there is a little square plastic piece inside the firing end of them. is that supposed to come out somehow? |
pics please _________________ -- 1987 Westfalia automatic (Captain Vino) |
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t3 kopf Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2012 Posts: 1115 Location: over by 'der
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Not home now to take a pic, but the manufacturer says they belong there. Im gonna try to take em back to the store. Thats what they said to do. Ill give them one more shot. My old injectors are working, so thats proof. _________________ '90 Carat w/ '95 phase 1 EJ22 OBD2 conversion |
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regis101 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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NavyVW wrote: |
i installed a set of these just now and they wont fire. i noticed there is a little square plastic piece inside the firing end of them. is that supposed to come out somehow? i dont wanna pull it out and then find out i ruined it. i thought it was weird that there would be plastic inside these. |
The GP's? geesh. I can't win.
When mine arrive, I'll test with an ohm meter. Then maybe plug them in and turn the key before tearing apart the fuel lines. They should buzz, I guess. _________________ Peace, Regis |
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