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Jim Schield Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2003 Posts: 79
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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Anyone tried these? How did you like them? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76949 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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They've been around for 20 years and nobody seems to use them.
What does that tell you? _________________ Glenn
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Jim Schield Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: DUI distributors |
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I know I haven't heard about VW folks using them, but the design is certainly used on most modern engines now. Maybe the expense doesn't justify the voltage (50,000 volts, $239.00)
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BFB Samba Member
Joined: November 03, 2014 Posts: 1762
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:26 am Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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Bumping this out of curiosity..
and also maybe a big part of why they’re not seen used a lot on vw is the size / aesthetics? The HEI worked well on GM stuff so whats the problem with these on vw? _________________ Forced induction can overcome a lot of obsticles that gets in it's way
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Build it your way not the way someone else does it. Their way might not work for you." - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
“ The monkey see monkey do mentality seems to run deep in VW people. "Gene Berg said it was so 30 years ago so thats the way it is" “ - bdkw1 |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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I put DUI systems in a few cars, but never an ACVW. They were a good product for the domestic world but having a HUGE distributor/cap/coil on a t1 engine is less than esthetically pleasing to me. Even my pertronix billet distributor is big. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76949 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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slalombuggy wrote: |
on a t1 engine is less than esthetically pleasing to me. |
In my opinion the black cast iron look best... not saying they are the best in every engine combo.
_________________ Glenn
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Brian_e Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2009 Posts: 3294 Location: Rapid City, SD
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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I built about 6-8 of these 10 or 12 years ago.
Ugly as all hell, but they will knock you over when they shock you rather than just tickle you like the standard VW stuff.
I used $65 eBay SBC distributors, and about 30min of very simple machine work and they are done. I ground every other prong off the mag pickup.
It’s about the best spark power/$$, and ugliest ignition you could get.
There were 4cyl Vega HEI, but they had a separate coil, and they weren’t available new when I was looking. Only junk yard available.
Brian _________________ www.type-emotorsports.com |
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chrisflstf Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 3446 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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And I thought a Magnaspark was huge. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76949 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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Does it clear the mechanical fuel pump? _________________ Glenn
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Brian_e Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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People still run mechanical pumps?
Of course it won’t clear one.
Brian _________________ www.type-emotorsports.com |
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Brian_e Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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chrisflstf wrote: |
And I thought a Magnaspark was huge. |
Ain’t no small cap cross firing in this big girl. _________________ www.type-emotorsports.com |
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Stinky123 Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2022 Posts: 132 Location: Grand Junction, CO
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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This thread is a bit old. They are based on the Chevy HEI distributer. I'm sorta surprise that they dont make one based on the smaller diameter HEI. I dont know how they compare to Pertronix, and others, price wise. On the Chevy forum, Pertronix is not regarded well, to replace older GM point distributors. Chinese electronic parts aren't regarded well and the DUI website says that they are made in the US.
They use GM parts, therefore, guess which one I.d want to be looking for parts for in the middle of nowhere. GM parts have a good reputation for durability.
As far as electronic ignitions go, the HEI is regarded as being one of the best
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_energy_igniti...HEI,system's%20breaker%20points%20and%20condenser. |
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Frank Bassman Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2012 Posts: 894 Location: Miami
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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I don't know why we haven't seen someone adapt a chrysler 8 cyl mag pickup dist with vac and mechanical advance to vw... way smaller footprint, bigger cap than the bosch by a lot, nowhere near as big as a HEI and can be used with a remote mounted HEI, way cleaner and will more than likely clear any stock fuel pump.
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3466 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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If a person wants the spark of the HEI GM distributor, anyone can use a GM module and GM coil and get the exact same spark using normal size distributors. The ugly dui beast doesnt have any advantage or purpose.
One way is the vortec style stand alone module, bracket, and coil is $36
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133253996303?mkcid=16&...media=COPY
I personally prefer skipping the module and getting a cdi and having a better spark then the GM HEI. _________________ [email protected] MPH 1/4 Mile & 8.1 @ 83.7MPH in 1/8 Mile with Mild Type 1 VW Mag Case 2234cc commuter engine in stock weight bug w/only .491 total lift(CB2292 Cam), 42x37 heads, 48idf's, Street tires, Belt on, Mufflers, Pump gas, video of the run here: https://youtu.be/M3SPqMOKAOg
Transmission by MCMScott:
Rhino case, Klinkenberg 4.12, Superdiff, 002 mainshaft with 091 first idler. Weddle 1.48 Third & 1.14 Fourth. |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9147 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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GMs electronic parts haven't been made in the USA since the 90s. The components may be assembled in the USA making them compliant for made in USA stickers, but the electronics have been made in China and Mexico for decades right along side everyone else's.
And yup, I can attest to the output of those hei distributors. I got layed down a couple times by leaky plug wires and wet fenders. They fkn hurt and my hand took a while to work right again. Not quite as bad as one tech who was leaning on a wet fender who wasn't wearing pants under his wet coveralls and his tighty whiteys were also wet. If you understand current flow and paths of least resistance you'll understand his pain. |
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3466 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: DUI distributor/coils in a VW |
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slalombuggy wrote: |
GMs electronic parts haven't been made in the USA since the 90s. The components may be assembled in the USA making them compliant for made in USA stickers, but the electronics have been made in China and Mexico for decades right along side everyone else's.
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Great Point. This is a reason GM HEI conversions are not the best choice. All the modules are easy to get but they are not made like they used to. My last HEI conversion was on a Dodge, and i kept spare modules in the glove box and had to replace them from time to time. _________________ [email protected] MPH 1/4 Mile & 8.1 @ 83.7MPH in 1/8 Mile with Mild Type 1 VW Mag Case 2234cc commuter engine in stock weight bug w/only .491 total lift(CB2292 Cam), 42x37 heads, 48idf's, Street tires, Belt on, Mufflers, Pump gas, video of the run here: https://youtu.be/M3SPqMOKAOg
Transmission by MCMScott:
Rhino case, Klinkenberg 4.12, Superdiff, 002 mainshaft with 091 first idler. Weddle 1.48 Third & 1.14 Fourth. |
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ORANGECRUSHer Samba Member
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