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KrisBalfe Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2004 Posts: 832 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: Official So34 35 36 flipseat thread |
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Really I just need some help with a new flip seat that's just been pulled out of North Dakota, but an official Flipseat or even an early Westy thread seems like it would be a cool idea. So here's the bus, it is a '61 original safari havin', eba spaka carryin', seat flippin' Westy. I couldn't help but notice it's a pretty unique color as well. But alas, the VIN has been cut out within the last year. We are puttin this bus back on the road and we would really like to include those original pieces of steel. We have replacement VIN's from a '61 that we will provide. Help us Samba one kenobi, you're our only hope.
As you can see no M code plate or holes where it would be...
This is our biggest problem area with this rust free bus |
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abuspilot Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2002 Posts: 1012 Location: Mentally, I'm in Michigan
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Post a picture of the M-code plate. Curious to see if it has the safari m-code on it. Was talking with a buddy the other day about original safari westys and not having the safari m-code. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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abuspilot wrote: |
Post a picture of the M-code plate. Curious to see if it has the safari m-code on it. Was talking with a buddy the other day about original safari westys and not having the safari m-code. |
The M-code plate is gone too, too bad.....Im sure it would have had an interesting Sk #.
Are you and Paul putting this back together or did Paul sell it to you? |
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KrisBalfe Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2004 Posts: 832 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Paul does the mechanicals, the body is my cross to bear
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KrisBalfe Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2004 Posts: 832 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah the bus is still Pauls, look for these busses Shasta trip 2009? |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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KrisBalfe Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2004 Posts: 832 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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you understand the pickle we're in then without a m-code plate or any signs of an m-code plate and the vin being cut out... |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like whoever skanked the flipseat hardware, VIN stamping, ID plate, and M code plate transferred it to another bus, or at least planned to. Unless you have documentation of the VIN for that chassis, you're gonna have to come up with one to register and insure that bus.
Too bad. In New Jersey, you'd be SOL, as there is no way to assisgn a new VIN that's legal. That bus would be scrap.
Some states will generate a new VIN for old cars without ID, you should see where your state is in this regard. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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Clara Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12400
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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That could possibly be the earliest flipseat around.
Low hinge, but pointy pod and pointy dash tray '61.
The earliest other I know of is an April 4 '61 flipseat, with fat lip tray:
Yours has the cut out on the pointy pod for the fat lipped tray, but has an early tray in it... interesting. So probably not that much earlier.
Interesting colours, serious bummer some idiot hacked the info off and took the tag. I wonder about that color.
I'm wondering if the m-code tag was in a differnt location, as the regular location doesn't have the screw holes.
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But alas, the VIN has been cut out within the last year. |
How do you know it was in the last year?
Does that mean you know who did it, and could possibly get the numbers back? _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see any holes there for the tag screws?
The hand signals rock, I am going to copy that at some point. |
You'll need two people, unless you work the camera with your teeth.
I don't see any screw holes either. |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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j.pickens wrote: |
Looks like whoever skanked the flipseat hardware, VIN stamping, ID plate, and M code plate transferred it to another bus, or at least planned to. Unless you have documentation of the VIN for that chassis, you're gonna have to come up with one to register and insure that bus.
Too bad. In New Jersey, you'd be SOL, as there is no way to assisgn a new VIN that's legal. That bus would be scrap.
Some states will generate a new VIN for old cars without ID, you should see where your state is in this regard. |
Paul grabbed the seat from the bus a few years back. I assue if he had taken the M-code plate he wouldn't be looking for it.
Bummer about the VIN hacks. That combined with the rust and missing parts.....I probably would have left the bus out to rot. Cool color though, but hard to veriy as original withou the m-code plate. |
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KrisBalfe Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2004 Posts: 832 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah he took the seat from it last trip, went back for the bus and BAM numbers gone... It is very difficult to prove the colors were OG but hey who cares I can't see anywhere on this bus that shows otherwise, and thats good enough for me. It is strange the M code plate is missing since there are no holes where it should be, rust nah this bus isn't rusty
So... if you are reading this and accidently cut the #'s out DO the right thing it's never to late, Thanks SLC |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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KrisBalfe wrote: |
Yeah he took the seat from it last trip, went back for the bus and BAM numbers gone... It is very difficult to prove the colors were OG but hey who cares I can't see anywhere on this bus that shows otherwise, and thats good enough for me. It is strange the M code plate is missing since there are no holes where it should be, rust nah this bus isn't rusty :wink:
So... if you are reading this and accidently cut the #'s out DO the right thing it's never to late, Thanks SLC |
I'm not doubting the color, but it's always nice to have the M-code plate to back it up.
I'd look around for some other holes with the proper spacing.
It's possible that real early flipseats had them mounted elsewhere.
I have pictures of a mango/grey flipseat, but that was years ago and I have no idea where the bus is now. |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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abuspilot wrote: |
Post a picture of the M-code plate. Curious to see if it has the safari m-code on it. Was talking with a buddy the other day about original safari westys and not having the safari m-code. |
the safari window code is usually part of the USA specs package. however, M-codes are different in some ways on westies than other buses for some reason. _________________ .
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24759 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Some of the very early flip-seats just do not have any trace of an Mcode plate. Might be time to contact VW for a birth certificate. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Stocknazi Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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j.pickens wrote: |
Looks like whoever skanked the flipseat hardware, VIN stamping, ID plate, and M code plate transferred it to another bus, or at least planned to. Unless you have documentation of the VIN for that chassis, you're gonna have to come up with one to register and insure that bus.
Too bad. In New Jersey, you'd be SOL, as there is no way to assisgn a new VIN that's legal. That bus would be scrap.
Some states will generate a new VIN for old cars without ID, you should see where your state is in this regard. |
i would slap another vin plate on there somewhere and drive that bitch. _________________ WANTED:
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campingbox Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
Might be time to contact VW for a birth certificate. |
Tough to do with the VIN hacked out. |
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KrisBalfe Samba Member
Joined: December 06, 2004 Posts: 832 Location: SLC
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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StockNazi wrote: |
j.pickens wrote: |
Looks like whoever skanked the flipseat hardware, VIN stamping, ID plate, and M code plate transferred it to another bus, or at least planned to. Unless you have documentation of the VIN for that chassis, you're gonna have to come up with one to register and insure that bus.
Too bad. In New Jersey, you'd be SOL, as there is no way to assisgn a new VIN that's legal. That bus would be scrap.
Some states will generate a new VIN for old cars without ID, you should see where your state is in this regard. |
i would slap another vin plate on there somewhere and drive that bitch. |
That's the last resort( that bitch is gonna be drivin though) |
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mightymouse Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 4220 Location: las vegas
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Id say, just get started on it. give it some love. get it on 4 correct wheels, clean it all up, start cutting out sheetmetal, and keep this thread updated. that energy being sent out, the VIN will pop up for sure. so many people on here, someone will see it and know where it went. you need to put up pics oh the field it was in also. where it sat etc etc.
later sick bus btw. dave |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10196 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think Paul said this bus was in North Dakota, so maybe between the 10 VW people in that entire state one of them will fess up? Someone probably grabbed it for their sand rail or something.... |
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