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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhhhh, the HALIBRAND came first.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice try but Halibrand KidneyBean 5's didn't have 5-ear caps, and Mg Hali's light up a bonfire much better than Al.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice try, but those are 3 ear caps!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

those spinners were threaded and they're not called caps.

5-ear center caps screw on and look dildous

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. You're picking nits. Obviously, the design was borrowed from Halibrand. The originator.
By 40 or more years.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeem wrote:
Okay. You're picking nits. Obviously, the design was borrowed from Halibrand. The originator.
By 40 or more years.


Yes, thats a given... and I assumed common knowledge in this forum.

All I asked was which of the new ones came first.

Salt Flat Specials or Speedmasters ?????

So I'm sure you know that Salt Flats are 2piece and can be custom ordered in a wide (and narrow) range of sizes.

My ponder was only thinking of saving Eric Vaughn some time and me some $$$
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeem wrote:
Okay. You're picking nits. Obviously, the design was borrowed from Halibrand. The originator.
By 40 or more years.


Yes, thats a given... and I assumed common knowledge in this forum.

All I asked was which of the new ones came first.

Salt Flat Specials or Speedmasters ?????

So I'm sure you know that Salt Flats are 2piece and can be custom ordered in a wide (and narrow) range of sizes.

My ponder was only thinking of saving Eric Vaughn some time and me some $$$


Hahahahaa Guess I was too dense to pick up on the sarcasm! To answer your question, I don't know. But, I'd bet the American SFS's were first to the scene. Oh. And what's a little time AND money when you can have the Master Eric massage your wheels?!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just hoping they were designed w/ structural software that simulates the " Structural Optimization of Aluminum Wheels".
Then I could assume that the mounting surface was made beefy enough to take a lil' machining.

By machining down the lug mounting surface (inside of the front wheels) I could offset (tuck) them more than the 21mm they come with. Then have Eric take an inch off the face and the suckers would really tuck-in nicely, even w/ a stock width beam.

The folks at MoonEyes were no help w/ the structural software question... and that had me wondering if A/R designed the speedmasters for them. One would hope that A/R would have the best of structural softwares..

Because if they were designed with something like Catia or Maya then its all guesswork.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no shocker the tech guys didn't know. Tech support usually means, they know what the wheels will fit and what finishes they are available in. I really wouldn't be surprised if AR did the engineering/design on the SM wheel, but I have no idea.

That's one thing lacking in VW aftermarket wheels, front to back differential. As in, the wides go in the back and the pizza cutters up front!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KäferKrieger wrote:
Which came first ? Speedmasters or Salt Flat Specials ??


those American racing wheels were out long before the speed masters... I can remember inquiring about ordering them in Porsche pattern thru MOONEYES back in '05 or '06
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my car on them. IT's not quite finished yet but you get the idea. I had the lips polished on them and the centers refinished.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Porsche 356 Reply with quote

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Does anybody have a picture of these on a 356?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How well do speedmasters fit on 356 A or B brakes?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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here is the rare 4 lug version, they only made 50 sets for a shop in Japan, this is most likely the only set in the US as MOON originally passed on the 4 lug version...

for 14mm lugs you can use the vanagon ones, perfect lenght an taper...

Anthony / ISP WEST


hi anthony,
mate dont know if you can remember... but what size tyres were they? do you remember what offset they were? are they different to wide 5 lugs setup?
std square. std straight axle... what would you suggest.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just about to order some of these for an early 60's Ghia and was wondering if anyone could help me out with what the best offset would be.
Standard beam at this stage, any advice appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am just about to order some of these for an early 60's Ghia and was wondering if anyone could help me out with what the best offset would be.
Standard beam at this stage, any advice appreciated.


mate i maybe interested as well... is it better to order 2 full sets from them?
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What's the specs on this setup? Beam size, wheel offset, tire size, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's the specs on this setup? Beam size, wheel offset, tire size, etc.


6.5" beam, drop spindles, caster shims, flipped outer tie rod ends, drop plates in rear w/ a combo of inner and outer splines.

Wheels are et13 all around, 155-60-15 front and 205-65-15 rear
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tkelley wrote:
JonnyCakes wrote:
What's the specs on this setup? Beam size, wheel offset, tire size, etc.


6.5" beam, drop spindles, caster shims, flipped outer tie rod ends, drop plates in rear w/ a combo of inner and outer splines.

Wheels are et13 all around, 155-60-15 front and 205-65-15 rear


Thanks, that's just the info I need. I think the stance is perfect! This is the look I am going for on my 63 project. Are they mounted with studs or lugbolts?
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