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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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squareonair or anyone who has airride on their T3, I'm trying to see how other people have their front setup as far as the how you disabled the torsion bars. I assume you have ground off the splines so the opposite end of the torsion bar can spin Freely, but how did you lock it in place so the it can turn up and down but no slide out the other side.


i used a hardin metric head bolt so it has threades on both sides...and i red loctite it in place and double nutted it.....you have to double nut it....i didnt and it will come out on you if you dont.....i learnt the hard way thinking red loctite was good enuff.......but since i double nutted it no problems.....and yes the inside splines are all ground off to spin freely

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on! Thanks for replying so quick. I was thinking of drilling a hole in the bolt and sticking a cotter pin through it? What do you think? That pluss the double nut? I wanna be safe too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I see a common tread with these builds... No shocks! How is the bounce with these? I remember in my younger years not running shocks up front with just twisted front and it was fine until one day I have to stop quick and I got horrible wheel hop and almost hit someone.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsun wrote:
Right on! Thanks for replying so quick. I was thinking of drilling a hole in the bolt and sticking a cotter pin through it? What do you think? That pluss the double nut? I wanna be safe too.


cotter pin at the end after the double nuts would be a good caution perpus(sp)....anything to keep it from comming out on you.......if not you will look like this.....
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So I see a common tread with these builds... No shocks! How is the bounce with these? I remember in my younger years not running shocks up front with just twisted front and it was fine until one day I have to stop quick and I got horrible wheel hop and almost hit someone.


with the bags you can reg. the presure on how soft or how stiff you want the ride to be.....so they act as a shock in away......but the ride is so much better......has pleanty of controll depending on the ammount of air you have in the bag....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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with the bags you can reg. the presure on how soft or how stiff you want the ride to be.....so they act as a shock in away......but the ride is so much better......has pleanty of controll depending on the ammount of air you have in the bag....

But regulating the air will also alter the ride height.

Air bags are more like an air spring than an air shock. I found the ride to be fine on the car I rode in. The rear has more weight so it tended to bounce more and, in my opinion, would be the end in more need of a shock absorber than the front.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air bags are more like an air spring than an air shock. I found the ride to be fine on the car I rode in. The rear has more weight so it tended to bounce more and, in my opinion, would be the end in more need of a shock absorber than the front.


I noted this as well as I spotted a video of a bag'd square and it had quite a bit on bounce going on!

Thanks for all the tips. Looking to get back into T3's after about a 15 year hiatus and I looking to lay pan on my return! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Air bags are more like an air spring than an air shock. I found the ride to be fine on the car I rode in. The rear has more weight so it tended to bounce more and, in my opinion, would be the end in more need of a shock absorber than the front.


I noted this as well as I spotted a video of a bag'd square and it had quite a bit on bounce going on!

Thanks for all the tips. Looking to get back into T3's after about a 15 year hiatus and I looking to lay pan on my return! Laughing


sweet let me know if you need any help or have any questions.....
and oh ya.....there will be a new type3 come out of my shop sometime this year.......and i am putting it in writing that it will be the lowest type3 in the world......
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sweet let me know if you need any help or have any questions.....
and oh ya.....there will be a new type3 come out of my shop sometime this year.......and i am putting it in writing that it will be the lowest type3 in the world......


I'll be watching for this! [thumbs up] Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.and i am putting it in writing that it will be the lowest type3 in the world......


your going to have to battle me and the nasty for that title homie Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.and i am putting it in writing that it will be the lowest type3 in the world......


your going to have to battle me and the nasty for that title homie Wink


done....... Laughing Shocked Surprised Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh this will be fun =)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i hope you guys post picture, maybe somebody should start a thread for the lowest type 3 or lowest vw.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres a preview mind you this picture is with its old KCW sinble bag airbeam. so its not as low as it will be in a few months when i finish everything.

here in the type 3 section i have a thread goin called my new type 3
that ill be updating with pictures of my progress as time goes on.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well for something to be the lowest i believe it calls for a tube chassis, body drop or taking the pan halves out and making them flat (which is what im doing on my t34. that is what kept me from laying rocker.


i know everybodys seen it, but im interested as well on this now battle for the lowest!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man... this could get bloody! Laughing

With that said I am going to create a post to see who else is out there!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Man... this could get bloody! Laughing


Especially for insects. That thing could knock an ant's hat off! Laughing

And I thought my Notch was low.
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Turns out, it was just tall grass! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what size inlets are on the DDB setup?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what size inlets are on the DDB setup?

Keep it to one thread to make it easier to consolidate the data.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im subscribing to this awesome thread, I would kill for any of the setups pictured....awesome job guys Smile
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