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Bay Window Steve Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2006 Posts: 280 Location: Van Alstyne, Texas
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Adding deluxe trim to a non deluxe bus? |
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I searched but didn't find this. Just wondering if anyone has ever attempted this, or if its just too stupid. I really like deluxe buses, but like my 70 pretty well, so I was just thinking about it.
Any thoughts besides to call me stupid? |
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Clembus Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2006 Posts: 105 Location: Gloucester, UK.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I trimmed my Westy
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Bay Window Steve Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2006 Posts: 280 Location: Van Alstyne, Texas
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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How hard was it to keep straight? |
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Blaubus Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2003 Posts: 5153
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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best way is to take measurements off an originally deluxe bus. i have had to do this when replacing deluxe doors with camper doors. helps to have a 4 ft straight edge too |
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oldskool7_11 Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2006 Posts: 213
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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i say do it. i have a full kits for sale if your not looking for perfect(minor dings and sratches). use a caulk line to keep your lines straight. you could do the whole side at once which means less measuring and lining up. |
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bradgsanford Heathen
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 92 Location: okc
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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A PO deluxe'd mine. The M-plate doesn't say it's deluxe but it certainly has all the trim. I never woulda known it had I not researched the M-plate.
I say go for it.
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visibleink Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1668 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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I did mine last year. I used all original trim pieces from parts buses I collected over the years. Took some hunting and ebaying to get enough for a good complete set plus clips. Install was pretty easy but the key is drilling the holes straight.
I really prefer the trim on top of a solid color. It pops much louder than over a two tone bus.
bradgsanford - was the paint on yours originally a single tone or two? You sure on that m code - yours sure looks like an original deluxe from that one pic. _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
<-- Helga, she slammed her dub in '53 and adjusted valves with her teeth |
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bradgsanford Heathen
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 92 Location: okc
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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visibleink, no I'm not 100%. I'm just going by the codes on type2.com. A deluxe would be 241X XX and mine is 2211 21. There exists a great possibility that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about |
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Clembus Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2006 Posts: 105 Location: Gloucester, UK.
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Bay Window Steve wrote: |
How hard was it to keep straight? |
I taped mine on all round with masking tape - then drew pencil lines along the top and bottoms of the edges, then removed the trim and drilled holes along the centre of the two lines.
I had two mates critique it as I went, but once youve drilled the first hold its gets easier! Measure thrice, drill once |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51123 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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bradgsanford wrote: |
visibleink, no I'm not 100%. I'm just going by the codes on type2.com. A deluxe would be 241X XX and mine is 2211 21. There exists a great possibility that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about |
22XX... is as deluxe as it gets for north america, they came with the trim and 2 tone until 72 (68-70 only the roof white). 24XX....'s are european clippers, more trim on the bumpers and a bunch of other stuff. If your VIN starts with 221 you have a 71 deluxe. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
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bradgsanford Heathen
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 92 Location: okc
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I stand corrected. Thanks very much for the info. I learn something every day on this forum. |
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ScreaminJimmy Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2007 Posts: 91 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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I've been considering the same thing for my '79 Westy. I already have the chrome bumpers, so I think adding the trim would really make it sizzle.
As Clembus mentioned, use 1" masking tape to keep the holes straight. Start at the front and stick down a few inches of tape, then unroll a section the entire length of the bus [u]without sticking it down[/u]. Then, while keeping slight tension on it, very carefully lay the tape down. It may take a couple of tries to get it just right, but doing the entire length with one continuous piece of tape will give you an instant visual on whether it's straight or not. When you get it like you want it, mark the holes and drill them right through the tape. The tape will help keep the bit from walking but I would add a extra strip above and below each hole location just in case. When finished, pull off the remaining tape, paint inside the holes with a Q-tip to prevent rust, and you're ready to pop on the trim!
Good luck! _________________ James
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ScreaminJimmy Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2007 Posts: 91 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I've been considering the same thing for my '79 Westy. I already have the chrome bumpers, so I think adding the trim would really make it sizzle.
As Clembus mentioned, use 1" masking tape to keep the holes straight. Start at the front and stick down a few inches of tape, then unroll a section the entire length of the bus [u]without sticking it down[/u]. Then, while keeping slight tension on it, very carefully lay the tape down. It may take a couple of tries to get it just right, but doing the entire length with one continuous piece of tape will give you an instant visual on whether it's straight or not. When you get it like you want it, mark the holes and drill them right through the tape. The tape will help keep the bit from walking but I would add a extra strip above and below each hole location just in case. When finished, pull off the remaining tape, paint inside the holes with a Q-tip to prevent rust, and you're ready to pop on the trim!
Good luck! _________________ James
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visibleink Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1668 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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bradgsanford wrote: |
I stand corrected. Thanks very much for the info. I learn something every day on this forum. |
Yea if it wasn't a deluxe it would be a solid color bus. Very few 71 are "kombis" - most are deluxes or campers. _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
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kitcarson Samba Member
Joined: April 14, 2010 Posts: 56 Location: Eastern Idaho
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:55 pm Post subject: Deluxe vs Standard |
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I recently got this one. havent ran the VIN yet, but thinking its a deluxe, but now not too sure..... maybe european. even the radio antenna is unique.....the door plate says 1970.
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51123 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Antenna is in the factory M code location but a wise dealer or PO could have done that, if it didn't have side reflectors and a pop top I'd say Euro deluxe but from what I see it's a Euro delivered US spec bus that had some PO upgrades at wrecking yards during it's Euro vacation. Looks like it's got opening front vent windows too.
Why not just start your own thread on this find? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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