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tomkay Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2010 Posts: 111 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the midst of adding some lighting to come on when the slider door opens. Bought a door switch, put it in and then realized that there is nothing on the slider to depress the switch when the door closes.
What would I call what I am missing when looking for one?
Thanks. _________________ '87 Westy |
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pinealservo Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2010 Posts: 155 Location: Lehi, UT
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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In electronics terms, it's a SPST push-button momentary switch. These are available in momentary off and momentary on varieties. The factory one is probably momentary off, meaning it opens the circuit (turns off the light) when the button is pressed (the door is closed), but I'm not sure.
If you're asking at a junkyard, you can probably just call it a 'door switch'. You can probably pick up a generic one at your FLAPS, too. |
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tomkay Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2010 Posts: 111 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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The switch I have.
It's the bumper or plunger (not sure what to call it) that I'm missing. There is nothing to depress the switch which will result in the light not turning off. _________________ '87 Westy |
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70coupyel Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 1657 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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tomkay I'm in the same boat as you. My van had the switch for the sliding door,inside the door jam. I rewired some LED's and installed another 3 way switch.(On-off-door). I went to close the slider and there is a gap over the switch. What we need is the rubber bumper that goes on the sliding door.
Anybody have a picture of this on your van? I have not made it to a boneyard and have not made one yet . _________________
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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It's not a rubber,it's a piece of L shaped plastic
easy to reproduce with a piece of wood until you find one.There is a factory spot for it as you may have seen.
I must have a pic somewhere,but connection is too slow to download it anyway _________________ Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:35 am Post subject: |
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On your slider you'll see two holes for this stop. One for a retaining screw and the other to keep the
stop in its place. When I added mine the stop still did not reach the switch post to plubdge it in.
I had to extend the end of the stop with a square bumper from HD, like the above poster states
you can probably make your own or try one of the venders in the classifieds. I think that
I bought mine from Sleepy Joe.
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tomkay Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2010 Posts: 111 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:29 am Post subject: |
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ok thanks for the images. Now, that I see the shape of things, I should be able to make something to make do. _________________ '87 Westy |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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danfromsyr wrote: |
While on topic I have 2 great upgrades I do to all my vans.
1st) the TRUNK light switch (same as door jamb) of the late 80s' Jetta&Golf have a "V" notch that allows it to be caught in the OFF position.. say when you have the door open while camping or the drive in etc.. you just manually slide the pin in to a click.. and best part is it self resets..
When you shut the door again.. it'll unclick from the detent and when the door opens next it'll illuminate the light..
so next time @ the pick&pull or VW swap meet inspect those trunck door switches.. the one with a V notch in the side is the key.. |
Super cool. Was thinking of wiring in a slider door switch. Didn't know of that trunk "V" switch. So it can be installed in the slider door jamb?
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
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1621 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Yes, the v-notch door switch easily fits the slider door jamb. It's the same size as a standard switch. _________________ '85 Westy |
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danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15144 Location: Syracuse, NY
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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one can also cut a small notch into the base of a regular switch and it'll catch (stay off) nearly just the same *DIY skill yet to be determined _________________
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chimivee Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Orange, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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The factory notched switch from an A2 (my GTI's hatch):
ON
OFF
Although, mine doesn't "reset" upon closing the trunk. When I push it in, it stays in until I pop it out. Dunno. _________________ -James
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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and best part is it self resets..
When you shut the door again.. it'll unclick from the detent and when the door opens next it'll illuminate the light.. |
Actually they stay in the same position when the door is opened and closed. If you manually turn it off it will stay there until you manually turn it back on. It is a really nice courtesy item for others when you sneak out in the early hours to use the Loo so it doesn't light up the entire van. I have been running them in the front door and slider positions for years in my vans and that's how mine operate.
Some like it to reset and notch the stock switch themselves lower on the pin. |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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1621 wrote: |
Yes, the v-notch door switch easily fits the slider door jamb. It's the same size as a standard switch. |
hey Eric. Thanks.
danfromsyr: good idea. I might have a spare switch I could mod.
Maybe with a skill saw or something.
Neil.
"steady...."
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Timwhy Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4002 Location: Maine
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
Here is the early '90s Jetta trunk pin switch. Grab the screw too, it is a little different if I remember correctly.
The notch in the pin makes it so that you can push it in and slightly down and it will stay there until you push the pin in and up again. You can open and close the doors when the pin is in the notch and it won't turn on the lights.
Normal position-
Pushed in and sitting in the notch for night time stealthy maneuvers.
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 6360 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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syncrodoka Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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The pin is longer. The function is the same- it just sends a ground when actuated. |
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Timwhy Samba Member
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jwallis Samba Member
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Sodo Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 9618 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: How to wire a courtesy light switch in the slider? (Pics) |
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I cut in a courtesy light on my Westy today.
After ~28 years of Vanagons, I'm looking 😎forward 😎 to having the lighting "from above & behind" when opening the slider door.
I don't know why Westfalia didn't put a light there, nor why I waited so long.
My brother did it 25 years ago. And now Alistair is gonna say "ahem.... see Shufti Blog post from 1973"....
Well better late than never. But it's dang late.
Maybe Vanavation can make an adapter that fits the OEM light in the vent hole.
I had to take out all the screws on the trim unit (holds the curtain slider etc).
Also had to remove a few of the headliner screws to fish the wire forward to the driver seat fixture.
I used a "nibbler drill accessory" to cut the hole.
Then used a file to square it.
1.1" x 3.375" rectangle.
It's wired exactly the same as the light above the driver's seat.
Three wires come from the driver seat fixture to the slider door fixture.
There are two extra little spades on the fixture.
I added a 'piggyback' spade adapter for the 12v+ (red) wire.
This LED light is from Vanavation.
I haven't yet added the slider door open switch, but that's next. _________________
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