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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:20 am    Post subject: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

Years ago, I went to 16" CLK's along with keeping the spare 16" in its original location. The tire has always rubbed against the steering connecting shaft. I remember reading the Syncro 16 had a tube around its shaft to stop the rubbing. Does anyone have any information regarding the tube, maybe an image or thoughts?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

I believe you're thinking of the shift rod protection tube included on the later model Syncros to protect the rod from getting encumbered with snow and ice when driving through deep snow.

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As far as I remember the 16" Syncro didn't have any additional protection around the steering shaft.
However I could be wrong, the 16" I owned had a bash guard in place of the clamshell and a rear tire carrier.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

I believe Van Cafe had a steering shaft shield on their website to compliment their modified spare tire carrier.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

The Syncro 16" spare didn't fit in the clamshell, only the 14", no??
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

MarkWard wrote:
I believe Van Cafe had a steering shaft shield on their website to compliment their modified spare tire carrier.


Thank you! Yes, on their website...
https://vancafe.com/2wd-spare-tire-steering-shaft-protector/

Nothing for a Syncro, perhaps I'll make my own.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

bosruten wrote:
I remember reading the Syncro 16 had a tube around its shaft to stop the rubbing.

Incorrect, the spare was mounted elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

syncrodoka wrote:
bosruten wrote:
I remember reading the Syncro 16 had a tube around its shaft to stop the rubbing.

Incorrect, the spare was mounted elsewhere.


Apologies, I'm mistaken. Perhaps the article referenced a modification to a Syncro 16...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

I cut about 5 inches out of mine and slid a piece of round rod inside and had it re welded. Gives you just enough room.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

bosruten wrote:
MarkWard wrote:
I believe Van Cafe had a steering shaft shield on their website to compliment their modified spare tire carrier.


Thank you! Yes, on their website...
https://vancafe.com/2wd-spare-tire-steering-shaft-protector/

Nothing for a Syncro, perhaps I'll make my own.

See https://vancafe.com/4wd-spare-tire-steering-shaft-protector/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:02 am    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

vanagonjr wrote:
bosruten wrote:
MarkWard wrote:
I believe Van Cafe had a steering shaft shield on their website to compliment their modified spare tire carrier.


Thank you! Yes, on their website...
https://vancafe.com/2wd-spare-tire-steering-shaft-protector/

Nothing for a Syncro, perhaps I'll make my own.

See https://vancafe.com/4wd-spare-tire-steering-shaft-protector/


Thank you! I wonder if this will be made available again...but at the very least, a picture gives some thought to fabricating one.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

16CVs wrote:
I cut about 5 inches out of mine and slid a piece of round rod inside and had it re welded. Gives you just enough room.

Stacy


Interesting, do you happen to have an image for me to reference?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

Agreed you don’t need much. A smaller diameter shaft would do it, plus the mechanical advantage of the smaller diameter further reduces steering friction. I bet a sold shaft with a plastic sleeve on it would be the best. Or getting carried away…..maybe a solid shaft with a stack of 10 needle bearings slid over it before welding. Wink

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A plastic sleeve over the polished & greased steering shaft (at the top of the pic).
This is thick-wall (200psi ABS pipe) in the pic.
I have since removed that thick wall pipe and changed to thinwall (100 psi irrigation pipe) which was easy to snap on.
I don’t feel any resistance in the steering.

see this post: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9916639#9916639
Also look a few posts prior, theres pics.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Steering Connecting Shaft Reply with quote

Sodo wrote:
Agreed you don’t need much. A smaller diameter shaft would do it, plus the mechanical advantage of the smaller diameter further reduces steering friction. I bet a sold shaft with a plastic sleeve on it would be the best. Or getting carried away…..maybe a solid shaft with a stack of 10 needle bearings slid over it before welding. Wink

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
A plastic sleeve over the polished & greased steering shaft (at the top of the pic).
This is thick-wall (200psi ABS pipe) in the pic.
I have since removed that thick wall pipe and changed to thinwall (100 psi irrigation pipe) which was easy to snap on.
I don’t feel any resistance in the steering.

see this post: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9916639#9916639
Also look a few posts prior, theres pics.


Thank you... I appreciate the knowledge and helpful tips to solving "the rub"! Also, I enjoyed scrolling through your thread. That's a nice van!
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