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wcfvw69 
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:25 am Post subject: Re: air flow senser, whats the differance? |
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| Xevin wrote: |
VeeDubb,
No need to defend yourself. Just roll with it. When you read enough post and get a feel for these guys responses you'll understand. Steve can dish out some tough love but he's Johnny on the spot to help out whoever needs help. He and Wildthings go at it all the time but those two have so much knowledge and history they understand and have earned each other's respect. I've seen to many new guys get bent out of shape and burn bridges going toe to toe with guys that have 40 years of knowledge. What happens is the other gurus on The Samba see defensive responses and back away. And good on you apologizing, that goes along way. Good luck with the project. |
What I find disappointing is the amount of "newbies" that join this site and the bay forums only to scared off by these same condescending, rude and outright asshole responses that usually come from the same folks over and over again. This is suppose to be a VW friendly community where we all help each other out and share what we know with others in a friendly, helpful way. Sadly, other peoples OVERSIZED EGOS and who clearly get all their self worth from their VW knowledge, get in the way and their woeful, horrific people skills appear and turn folks off from wanting to contribute and participate on this forum.
We all love our old VW's. We love to see road trip or vacation threads where these VW's are out being enjoyed with the families. I wonder how many nice folks have disappeared from participating on this site because of these same socially retarded jerks who ruin it for them.
There's times where I wish the moderation was much tighter on this site. It's always the same handful of folks who piss others off. The should get one or two warnings via PM'S about their tone, attitudes and the way they are coming across. If they can't meet the expectations, ban their fat asses..
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VeeDubb steppin
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:39 am Post subject: Re: air flow senser, whats the differance? |
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| Hey guys Xevin ,WCFVW69,and all others involved ,including you Steve thanks for being understanding .Iam a roller , I'm sorta like a Timex ,I'm not gonna get all butt hurt if I take an ass chewin , Heck ,sometimes I even chew back ,but I always TRY to have respect for my fellow Humans .It doesnt appear I'm going anywhere I've fallen in love again ,and the Bus is my latest fling , This obsession of mine may need treatment ,but I'm sure the Doc will say " I'm okay and youre okay ,if the check's okay ". |
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Tcash
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:51 am Post subject: Re: air flow senser, whats the differance? |
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What are the number cut out of the picture?
14?
and is it 63
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beetleman217
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: air flow senser, whats the differance? |
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I have the 0280200018 air flow meter on my 77 bus and it does not work. The engine stumbles upon start and never fires up. I swapped it with a friend's 0280200020 unit (from a 78 bus) and my engine fires right up and purrs like a kitten. Both units look identical and their flap position/clearance is pretty much the same (to the naked eye).
Reading this thread and others, I understand that the 018 is for 76 buses and 020 for 77 and on. But I've also read people claim they're totally interchangeable. So I don't know whether mine is not working because it's faulty or because it's the wrong year.
I'm trying to obtain a 020 but it seems nobody carries it anymore. Busdepot customer service told me I just need to re-calibrate my 018, but they don't know how to do it. Should I try to open it and mess with it? Does anyone have a working 020 they would like to sell?
And if that's not enough, I'm in a dire need of a cold start valve as mine is leaking badly, but it's out of stock everywhere!  So if anyone has one, please shout out! (Bosch # 0280170026 , VW # 022906171B )
Please help!!
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SGKent
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:49 am Post subject: Re: air flow senser, whats the differance? |
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| beetleman217 wrote: |
I have the 0280200018 air flow meter on my 77 bus and it does not work. The engine stumbles upon start and never fires up. I swapped it with a friend's 0280200020 unit (from a 78 bus) and my engine fires right up and purrs like a kitten. Both units look identical and their flap position/clearance is pretty much the same (to the naked eye).
Reading this thread and others, I understand that the 018 is for 76 buses and 020 for 77 and on. But I've also read people claim they're totally interchangeable. So I don't know whether mine is not working because it's faulty or because it's the wrong year.
I'm trying to obtain a 020 but it seems nobody carries it anymore. Busdepot customer service told me I just need to re-calibrate my 018, but they don't know how to do it. Should I try to open it and mess with it? Does anyone have a working 020 they would like to sell?
And if that's not enough, I'm in a dire need of a cold start valve as mine is leaking badly, but it's out of stock everywhere! So if anyone has one, please shout out! (Bosch # 0280170026 , VW # 022906171B )
Please help!! |
018 and 020 are the same inside. There is no difference. Check to make sure the points are closing inside yours when the AFM flap opens or you won't get fuel pressure.
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Tcash
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| Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 am Post subject: AFM (air flow meter) MAF (mass air flow sensor) T2 ID |
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| [url=https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8549582#8549582]AFM (air flow meter) MAF (mass air flow sensor) T2 ID[/url] |
AFM (air flow meter) MAF (mass air flow sensor) T2 ID
75-E76----- Bosch 0 280 200 012 (6-pin)
E76-76----- Bosch 0 280 200 018 (superseded> 0 280 200 020)
77-78 Calif- Bosch 0 280 200 020
77-79 Fed.- Bosch 0 280 200 020
1979 Calif.- Bosch 0 280 200 022
022 906 301 A , 6-pin , 1975 -E76 > 077 675 , Bosch 0 280 200 012
ED 000 640> ED 025 000 = 215 2 000 001>
GD 000 001> GD 010 999 = >216 2 077 675
022 906 301 B , 077 676> E76 -End of 76 , Bosch 0 280 200 018 > 0 280 200 020
GD 011 000> GD 027 786 = 216 2 077 676 > 216 2 300 000
022 906 301 D , 1977 -79 Fed. / 1977-1978 Calif. , Bosch 0280 200 020
GD 027 787> GD 055 800 = 217 2 000 001 >
GE 000 001> Fed. = 217 2 000 001 > 219 2 153 964
GE 000 001> GE 039 331 Calif. = 217 2 000 001 > 218 2 300 000
039 906 301 , 1979 Calif. , Bosch 0 280 200 022
GE 039 332> Calif. = 219 2 000 001 > 219 2 153 964
There is a discrepancy between what Karl and Ratwell listed for 77 and the Microfiche.
Which really does not matter because the 76-0 280 200 018 was superseded to the 0 280 200 020. So basically you can use either one from E76-79 Fed. and E76-1978 Calif.
Sources
Bus VIN / Chassis Numbers
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1688049.jpg / Fiche pic
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FISwap.html / ratwell
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2908832#2908832 / Karl rip |
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