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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:06 pm    Post subject: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Helena?) *UPDATE Reply with quote

Hey all,
So, I am currently in Jackson WY and it appears that the alternator in my 79 is dying. The belt is new and tight. I swapped in a spare regulator to check. When cold the alternator light is out, but once the engine is hot and driving the light comes on (sometimes has a fast paced pulse.)

Occasionally if I push in the clutch and rev it up to over 4K rpm, the light will go out for a moment, or sometimes even stay out for a minute or so, but then it comes back on.

I checked voltage at the battery when the light was on at idle and it was at 12.2 volts.

I am hoping to get to Glacier tomorrow, but NO ONE has an alternator in stock. Does anyone know of a place in-route that would definitely have one, or happen to have an extra working alternator laying around?

Thanks all!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

Read up on the necessary alterations to a new or rebuilt alternator. If you don't heed the offered knowledge you will end up at best with a burned up replacement and a burned up alternator or worse you could have a rig burned to the ground.

If you limit your power usage you can easily drive for a couple of hundred miles on a fully charged battery.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

Thank you for the tip! Anyone have a link to these "alterations?" My cell phone provider doesn't work hardly at all out here. It has been incredibly frustrating.

I found a parts store in Helena that can get me an aftermarket unit tomorrow, so I am on the 270 mile drive there hoping my alternator can keep me juiced til then.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

Use at your own risk. But looks like solid info

https://youtu.be/W8_thFzpyxw
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

99% chance the brushes are worn out - classic way they fail. That said do check the belt for damage. Look in the yellow pages for an electrical shop that specializes in rebuilding alternators. I looked online and there is a shop in Billings MT. Call them (406) 252-7342 https://www.generatorstartershop.com/ to make sure they rebuilt alternators of your type.

Take the fan belt off now before you damage the core alternator if this is a T4 2L pancake engine. If it is an upright T1 engine do not take the belt off. You'll have to use a battery charger to charge the batteries between stops. You'll get about 100 - 150 miles on a charge daytime depending on how many electronics are on board. If it is a T4 motor you can remove the harness to it also if you are concerned their might be an internal short but I would probably leave it on myself. You can also remove the blue wire so the light doesn't burn out.

Richard Atwell on his website has a how to remove the alternator.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

I got a 55amp Bosch alternator here in Missoula at http://www.autoelectricmissoula.com/ . If you need a place to work on it let me know.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

mtcamper wrote:
I got a 55amp Bosch alternator here in Missoula at http://www.autoelectricmissoula.com/ . If you need a place to work on it let me know.


What, no more spare alternators under the camping tent poles under the bench in the garage?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

Amskeptic wrote:
mtcamper wrote:
I got a 55amp Bosch alternator here in Missoula at http://www.autoelectricmissoula.com/ . If you need a place to work on it let me know.


What, no more spare alternators under the camping tent poles under the bench in the garage?

Silty says hi.
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Haha I thought of you when I saw this thread. I'm unfortunately currently out of Cobb webbed forgotten about silty alternators.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

MidWesty79 wrote:
Anyone have a link to these "alterations?"


Alternator Type IV (4)

Make sure the alt. cover is not touching anything that is hot on the alternator.
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Good luck
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Need alternator near Yellowstone (Bozeman, Jackson, Helena?) Reply with quote

Just wanted to give an update. I was able to get an aftermarket unit in Helena MT at AutoZone, however, I didn't install it. I didn't want to deal with the alterations required/or the removal of the pulley while on the road. I continued up to Glacier NP, and then drove all the way back to WI running on solar with a fused jumper running from my deep cycles behind the driver seat (in the spare tire cabinet) back into the engine bay. Luckily I had clear skies for my entire drive home, as I never struggled with voltage driving during the day.

Now that I am home I can have the existing alternator rebuilt or at least find a higher quality replacement. Thanks to all of those who responded with assistance.
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