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Humanure Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 376 Location: Pangea
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: Engine motor access hatch hack |
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Can someone point me in the direction of the thread about an engine access hack. From what I remember, a Type 3 hatch is used. I searched using many different keywords but with no luck. I guess the thread has a vague title. Here is a picture from the gallery of what I am referring too.
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mintonman Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2003 Posts: 4245 Location: between Trenton NJ. & Philly Pa.
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Baywindow bus rear cargo section, all you have to do is find a scrapped baywindow bus & cut the section out & weld it into your bus. I have the section sitting in my backyard attached to a 77 bay & would be more then happy to sell it if your interested. You can PM me your e-mail address or e-me through one of my ads if you want to see some pictures & talk price..................................................James(MINTONMAN) _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
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mandysbus Samba Member
Joined: December 20, 2002 Posts: 567 Location: downtown womelsdorf
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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vanagon holes work also.they have a bigger hole....... |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14271 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: |
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That's Pyro's bus. I think he's going to put in a bigger better one or he already has or maybe I don't know diddly. Definitly easier access. |
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beelzibus Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2005 Posts: 300
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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That's a coincidence, I fitted one into my bus just today. Taken from a scrapped Type 3 fastback.
Very easy to do, took me about 2 hours start to finish. |
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Humanure Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 376 Location: Pangea
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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mintonman, I came across a section in the classifieds but haven't heard back from the seller. If that falls through, I will get in touch with you.
beelzibus wrote: |
That's a coincidence, I fitted one into my bus just today. Taken from a scrapped Type 3 fastback.
Very easy to do, took me about 2 hours start to finish. |
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perthpanel Samba Member
Joined: May 05, 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Dorset UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Defo well worth doing , i'm putting one in my panel , as well as the bay window spare wheel well in the back ( my bulkhead is long gone ! ) and bay walk though Bulkheads |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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I'm really not getting what great advantage this access hatch mod. gives you.
Access to the carb? The fan shroud? The Generator? Is that it?
If its Generator access, I'd rather just pull the engine. You'd have to pull the generator four times to come out ahead timewise. I guess if you're on the road, the generator repair would be easier, but that's about it, as far as I can see.
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mintonman Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2003 Posts: 4245 Location: between Trenton NJ. & Philly Pa.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Humanure wrote: |
mintonman, I came across a section in the classifieds but haven't heard back from the seller. If that falls through, I will get in touch with you. |
Sounds good, it's not going anywhere as of yet, I still have to cut it out & I don't want to do any cutting until I talk to whoever is gonna get it so It can be cut the way whoever wants it cut, but I will say that the hatch itself does have a 3.5 to 4 inch round hole cut in it with a screen in it. I have no idea why this was done & as mentioned above I will be more then happy to e-mail pictures.
I'm with you on this mod Mr.Pickens, Maybe it makes it easier to set points, access the rear plugs & access those wonderfull upper motor mounting nuts behind the schroud, but other then that _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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mintonman wrote: |
Maybe it makes it easier to set points, access the rear plugs & access those wonderfull upper motor mounting nuts behind the schroud, but other then that |
I wouldn't hack up a split bus for this. But, hey, to each his own. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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mintonman Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2003 Posts: 4245 Location: between Trenton NJ. & Philly Pa.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Nor would I.
I never had any problems getting to anything in my 59single's compartment, but I am happy my 79bay had that hatch, there is no room in a bay engine compartment, so I can see why VW added it in the bays & vanagons, but no need for a splitbus with all that room in the engine compartment _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
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beelzibus Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't do it to a stock bus, but with a big motor with twin carbs etc it does make access considerably easier. |
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krusher Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2002 Posts: 7652 Location: europe
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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beelzibus wrote: |
I wouldn't do it to a stock bus, but with a big motor with twin carbs etc it does make access considerably easier. |
To what? |
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Humanure Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 376 Location: Pangea
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Well, it's not like I want to or like to cut up split Buses. This is my first Bus and the rear cargo area is in bad shape. Plus, I had a difficult time looking down inside the carb to see if it was getting fuel. Pain in ass to hold a little mirror, flash light and twist the throttle at the same time. If the cargo area was in great to decent shape, I would not touch it. _________________ It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. |
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Buckly Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2004 Posts: 1030 Location: Spokane, WA
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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so fix it, don't hack it. The time spent to fix it will increase the value. The time spent hacking it will decrease value and somebody else will have to undo what you do and fix it one day. how long do you plan on having the bus. Now be realistic and plan a year or two. Then think of every little fancy convenient modification every owner would, could or will do to your bus. When do we decide its not a splitty anymore. If you want an engine hatch, go buy a baywindow. _________________ Cool runnins,
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Olymale Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 620 Location: Olympia, Wa
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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I say put in the hatch...it's your bus and no-one elses. Some of these guys on here think that they are the guru's of oe and if you had the chance to see some of their buses or bugs I bet 75% of them have some after-market stuff on them. What's the dif? If your going to run the old 36 - 40 horse single carb set-ups than leave well enough alone but for those of us that want the power to get around without slowing everybody else up I say do what needs done. _________________ SBS #76
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Humanure Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2002 Posts: 376 Location: Pangea
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Buckly wrote: |
so fix it, don't hack it. The time spent to fix it will increase the value. The time spent hacking it will decrease value and somebody else will have to undo what you do and fix it one day. how long do you plan on having the bus. Now be realistic and plan a year or two. Then think of every little fancy convenient modification every owner would, could or will do to your bus. When do we decide its not a splitty anymore. If you want an engine hatch, go buy a baywindow. |
I see it as not a hack. I consider a hack a chop top, cutting out the middle of the Bus and making it into a short Bus or putting a V8 into it. I never did any metal work before and see this as something very minimal and easy to repair. I plan on keeping this Bus until I die, same with my Bug. Both were firsts and would hate to let them go and later on in life want them back. I read too many posts in the forums of people wishing back their rides. I had a feeling the purists would show their disdain as I composed this topic. I am a purist to a certain degree. I repeat, if my cargo section was complete and undamaged, I would not touch it. Unfortunately it is and I see no problem in making it "a little bit better." _________________ It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere. |
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badvok Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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krusher wrote: |
beelzibus wrote: |
I wouldn't do it to a stock bus, but with a big motor with twin carbs etc it does make access considerably easier. |
To what? |
fitting an engine hatch, i guess that's what he means
a vangon hatch will give you very easy access to most everything you could ever need to get at |
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oring71 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2004 Posts: 406 Location: Malta
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Just dont do it _________________ Das Maltese Kruizers |
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Stocknazi Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Olymale wrote: |
I say put in the hatch...it's your bus and no-one elses. Some of these guys on here think that they are the guru's of oe and if you had the chance to see some of their buses or bugs I bet 75% of them have some after-market stuff on them. What's the dif? If your going to run the old 36 - 40 horse single carb set-ups than leave well enough alone but for those of us that want the power to get around without slowing everybody else up I say do what needs done. |
i think that everyone is trying to fiqure out what the benifits will be. hacking in a rear access cover is not quite the same as putting on an aftermarket carb or paper aircleaner; it would not be that fun to have to fix later on. i'm with pickens, i really don't see any benifit from having one. i can access everything i my bus's engine compartment w/o one. i actually had to "fix" a hole someone cut into my bus over the engine about 2x3 feet. some dumbass po thought it would be an improvement _________________ WANTED:
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