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Adriel Rowley
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On Sunday I went to the Bug-In, and purchased a box of fuel injection stuff for the large sum of $10. Now that I have gone through and cleaned, "rebuilt", and took inventory of everything, I would like help on pricing. Oh, and I have a question: when I started to remove the cold start injector, I noticed part of the plastic gasket was missing. After cleaning it, I think it is too far gone to prevent a vacuum leak. Can I make a new gasket from a Cheerios box?
Now, onto the inventory:
8 fuel injectors- four appear good except for the hoses, and the others have excessive heat scarring and will be turned in as cores
4 metal injector plates
3 plastic injector plates
7 original sleeves/bushings
4 runners- paint is shot, and there is light surface rust on two Should I sand blast them?
2 T.P.S.es- one 4 pin and one 5 pin
2 fuel pressure regulators
2 of an unknown, with a part number of 311 900 161C and 033 6003 008
1 mystery bracket (will get pictures later)
1 manual A.A.R.
1 manual transmission throttle body (the device between the runners)
1 automatic transmission throttle body (the device between the runners), with a strange bracket and do hicky bolted on it that has a rod on the throttle that it works with
1 AG distributor
1 H (automatic) distributor
I am sorry this is so long, but any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  Oh, and explanation of the auto. throttle body would be nice: it has got my curiosity.
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VdubNewgye
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Ill tell ya what. Ill give you 10$ and pay shipping to get it to me.  |
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Russ Wolfe
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Give him $20 you cheap skate!!
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Adriel Rowley
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Russ Wolfe
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It should. That is not a hot area, just a vacuum area.
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Adriel Rowley
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SquareTone
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| 1 automatic transmission throttle body (the device between the runners), with a strange bracket and do hicky bolted on it that has a rod on the throttle that it works with |
Are you talking about a black micro-switch attached to the left side of the unit? If so, then that's the kickdown switch for the automatic (also known as an utterly useless part stuck on so that you have something else to break and more wires strung around).
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Mike Fisher
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| My kickdown switch works great! Definitely not "useless". |
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SquareTone
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| My kickdown switch works great! Definitely not "useless". |
Oh, they work fine. They're just not needed. In fact, I read somewhere that the tranny overrides the switch above something like 50mph. The spring loaded throttle lever on the automatics is a good feature though. Nice way to reduce cable breaks.
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Adriel Rowley
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Thank you for you alls assistance!
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| 1 automatic transmission throttle body (the device between the runners), with a strange bracket and do hicky bolted on it that has a rod on the throttle that it works with |
Are you talking about a black micro-switch attached to the left side of the unit? If so, then that's the kickdown switch for the automatic (also known as an utterly useless part stuck on so that you have something else to break and more wires strung around). |
It is in a bracket, but it has no wires. Today I found one in the adds:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=556598. What does it do? How does it work? I ask because I want to make sure it is set up right, for now it seems like it is doing nothing.
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Dad's 1964 Beetle purchased September 1968.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9252810#9252810
1971 Sunroof Squareback with Fuel Injection
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219811&highlight=squareback+rejuvenation |
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| SquareTone wrote: |
| Mike Fisher wrote: |
| My kickdown switch works great! Definitely not "useless". |
Oh, they work fine. They're just not needed. In fact, I read somewhere that the tranny overrides the switch above something like 50mph. The spring loaded throttle lever on the automatics is a good feature though. Nice way to reduce cable breaks. |
If they weren't needed, the engineers wouldn't have put them on the car.
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Adriel Rowley
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| Tram wrote: |
| SquareTone wrote: |
| Mike Fisher wrote: |
| My kickdown switch works great! Definitely not "useless". |
Oh, they work fine. They're just not needed. In fact, I read somewhere that the tranny overrides the switch above something like 50mph. The spring loaded throttle lever on the automatics is a good feature though. Nice way to reduce cable breaks. |
If they weren't needed, the engineers wouldn't have put them on the car. |
I am so glad to hear you say that! That has being my philosophy...and I though I was the only one! 
Now, if I knew what they were intending with the modulator valve...
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Dad's 1964 Beetle purchased September 1968.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9252810#9252810
1971 Sunroof Squareback with Fuel Injection
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219811&highlight=squareback+rejuvenation |
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| Tram wrote: |
| SquareTone wrote: |
| Mike Fisher wrote: |
| My kickdown switch works great! Definitely not "useless". |
Oh, they work fine. They're just not needed. In fact, I read somewhere that the tranny overrides the switch above something like 50mph. The spring loaded throttle lever on the automatics is a good feature though. Nice way to reduce cable breaks. |
If they weren't needed, the engineers wouldn't have put them on the car. |
I am so glad to hear you say that! That has being my philosophy...and I though I was the only one!
Now, if I knew what they were intending with the modulator valve... |
The modulator valve uses engine vacuum to regulate shift points. For example, your car should shift thru the gears faster on the flat than going up an incline.
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Russ Wolfe
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| Tram wrote: |
| SquareTone wrote: |
| Mike Fisher wrote: |
| My kickdown switch works great! Definitely not "useless". |
Oh, they work fine. They're just not needed. In fact, I read somewhere that the tranny overrides the switch above something like 50mph. The spring loaded throttle lever on the automatics is a good feature though. Nice way to reduce cable breaks. |
If they weren't needed, the engineers wouldn't have put them on the car. |
If the trans is adjusted right it will kick out about 60 mph
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Russ Wolfe
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Thank you for you alls assistance!
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| 1 automatic transmission throttle body (the device between the runners), with a strange bracket and do hicky bolted on it that has a rod on the throttle that it works with |
Are you talking about a black micro-switch attached to the left side of the unit? If so, then that's the kickdown switch for the automatic (also known as an utterly useless part stuck on so that you have something else to break and more wires strung around). |
It is in a bracket, but it has no wires. Today I found one in the adds:
What does it do? How does it work? I ask because I want to make sure it is set up right, for now it seems like it is doing nothing. |
Get us a picture of yours. The modulator is not mounted in a bracket. It is screwed into the trans. I think what you are describing is an anti-backfire valve on the very late cars only.
I have a box full of those. NOS. They do kind look like a modulator valve.
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Adriel Rowley
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4 metal injector plates
3 plastic injector plates
four fuel rails
4 runners- paint is shot, and there is light surface rust on two. Should I sand blast them?
2 T.P.S.es- one 4 pin and one 5 pin
2 fuel pressure regulators
2 of an unknown, with a part number of 311 900 161C and 033 6003 008
1 mystery bracket
1 automatic transmission throttle body
1 H (automatic) distributor
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Dad's 1964 Beetle purchased September 1968.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9252810#9252810
1971 Sunroof Squareback with Fuel Injection
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219811&highlight=squareback+rejuvenation |
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VdubNewgye
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| that mystery bracket is what the acceleration spring is connected to to get its stretch, the mystery metal piece goes right behind the T.P.S., not sure what it does... I was told at one time but forgot. has a certain name. |
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| that mystery bracket is what the acceleration spring is connected to to get its stretch, the mystery metal piece goes right behind the T.P.S., not sure what it does... I was told at one time but forgot. has a certain name. |
i second the mystery bracket, it bolts where the AAR sits and is the spot for the return spring to hook to.
those two mystery switches with the 1 prong are thermo switches for the cold start system.
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Adriel Rowley
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Russ Wolfe
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Going to take up a lot of band width doing it this way, but.
4 metal injector plates
Correct
3 plastic injector plates
correct
four fuel rails
correct. The 2 uppers are right side only. extra fitting goes to the cold start valve.
4 runners- paint is shot, and there is light surface rust on two. Should I sand blast them?
2 T.P.S.es- one 4 pin and one 5 pin
2 fuel pressure regulators
the one on the left is probably bad. not a good sign that the adjuster is screwed all the way in.
2 of an unknown, with a part number of 311 900 161C and 033 6003 008
Thermo switches for the cold start valve. One is T-3 the other I thnk is 914 Porsche {/b]
1 mystery bracket
[b]Throttle return spring anchor as others have said.
1 automatic transmission throttle body
That is not an automatic throttle body, just a late 72/73 with the deceleration dampner
1 H (automatic) distributor
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