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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: What lubricates the rear bearing seal? Reply with quote

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I just ordered some fancy/expensive ceramic hybrid bearings to replace my 50 years old rear axle bearings. Unlike the originals, they're sealed on both sides. I would like to install the rear seals, but I'm concerned that they'll burn up without gear oil sloshing around behind the them. Comments anyone?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: What lubricates the rear bearing seal? Reply with quote

gimmesomeshelter wrote:
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I just ordered some fancy/expensive ceramic hybrid bearings to replace my 50 years old rear axle bearings. Unlike the originals, they're sealed on both sides. I would like to install the rear seals, but I'm concerned that they'll burn up without gear oil sloshing around behind the them. Comments anyone?

Paul


Just curious, why re-invent the wheel? The factory bearings last 30-40 sometimes 50 years. I too would be concerned with the lubrication of the seal if you are now using "sealed" bearings.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second Viande....
In the 40 plus years of working on VW's and old Porsches that used the 6306 rear axel bearing, I have only replaced a few.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use sealed bearings on lowed cars.
heres something i copyed off the interweb about sealed bearings
Note on sealed bearings
Sealed bearings have a tightly sealed cover installed on both sides of the bearing. This cover seals the bearing internals from outside contamination and more importantly the cover seals in the grease or oil.

Any attempt to lubricate a sealed bearing will damage the bearing by deforming and forcing the seals into the balls/rollers. The grease may also be forced out of the bearing case into the motor windings, switches, and connections. The motor may fail because of this.

hope this helps
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I use sealed bearings on lowed cars.


When you do this, do you install the seal? If so, does it burn up?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i install everything as stock but with a sealed bearing if you ever have to jack your lowerd car up you wont have any oil leaking out of the axle tube
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: What lubricates the rear bearing seal? Reply with quote

gimmesomeshelter wrote:
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I just ordered some fancy/expensive ceramic hybrid bearings to replace my 50 years old rear axle bearings. Unlike the originals, they're sealed on both sides. I would like to install the rear seals, but I'm concerned that they'll burn up without gear oil sloshing around behind the them. Comments anyone?

Paul

do you have a web site or part number of these bearings you bought?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello-

http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=product&id=9100&n=SMR6306C-2YS/C3_#3_L55

Yes, they are very expensive, but the prices are actually 10% less than what's posted on line. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great...thanks Paul
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sealed bearings are pre-lubed from the factory. Sealed is also kind of a loose term. They keep out grit and stuff, but they usually aren't air tight or water tight unless specifically noted. Oil may seep into the shields and contaminate the factory lube. They may need to be opened up and maintained once in a while...if they are the serviceable type.
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