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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: Transmission guy in the south? |
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Anyone know of a place to get a nice rebuilt reduction box trans (drum to drum) or a guy that rebuilds them in the southeast? I believe that mine took a dump on me today on the way to work and I am sick of fooling with old crap that may or may not work!
I was cruising along this morning when I heard the engine rev, let off on the gas, then back on…. No acceleration…. Engine was running perfectly, cuts on, cuts off, etc. It’s like the power is getting lost between the engine and then Trans. I suspect that something is striped… "#$@%$#@"
Any suggestions? |
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grumpyveedub Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 469 Location: Central Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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check your drum, might be stripped. just a thought. |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Yeah definitely.
It's kind of wierd that it would be running fine, then not.
Usually when there are transmission problems, they get worse over time.
They don't usually just blow up all at once.
Might be the clutch.
First check the drum, then pull the engine and check out the clutch. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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"Check your drum"
Are you talking about the drums like the brake drums? If so they are fine... i replaced the axle seals this weekend... if not what other drums are there?
I am going to pull the engine tonight, i am almost sure that is where the problem is, (gut feeling) there were some moans and groans coming from back there but this thing has sat for the past 35 years so i figured that it was ok, the noise was no wore than the sound of my last bus with the camper interior taken out... and it was a daily driver for about two years.... Uggg this sucks.
Wwhat do you do if the trans input shaft is stripped? It didn't look that bad but it's acting like it could be the problem (again gut feeling.) |
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my65vert Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2003 Posts: 6186 Location: Middleburg, Florida
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: |
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I still think the splines on the drum are suspect. Did you get them on tight as hell when you replaced the axle seals? Cotter keys?
Slipping clutch? _________________ OGJHC
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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TIGHT AS HELLLLLLLL!
I also used a cotter key, the clutch is/ was new... I will find out soon enough what it looks like in there, Also if the drum was to strip wouldn't it have to strip both drums to render the truck un-driveable?
Like i said, i was cruising along just fine and then it got quiet(er) and no acceleration, I checed the engine oil and other stuff i could get to and it all looked great; running smooth, nice and cool.... the problem is definatly between the engine and the trans. |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: |
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cough, cough.. clutch... cough, cough... _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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I surrender. How would the clutch be causing this?
also: thanks for the help guys! |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Clutch slippy mean no goey.
The clutch does exactly what it implies, it clutches the flywheel allowing the engine power to transfer to the transaxle and to the wheels.
So, if your clutch is shot, you ain't going anywhere... _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
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swervyjoe Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2004 Posts: 968 Location: denver, co
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Mr. Electric Wizard wrote: |
Clutch slippy mean no goey.
The clutch does exactly what it implies, it clutches the flywheel allowing the engine power to transfer to the transaxle and to the wheels.
So, if your clutch is shot, you ain't going anywhere... |
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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The clutch {was} brand new…. I guess since it was just replaced I didn’t even think about it. I just got back from towing it back to the house, which was a blow to my pride… Tonight I’m going to pull the engine and see what’s going on back there.
I checked the shifter coupler its fine… started it up again and nothing… also checked the clutch cable, also fine. I guess all that is left to do is take a look and see what’s messed up, hopefully it’s something simple… |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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It usually is... _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
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Jeff Power Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2004 Posts: 1170 Location: with any luck, in my garage building bass guitars.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Just a suggestion, but it could be the spider gears. When mine went they went fast. You can check for that by jacking the backend up (both wheels of the ground) with the bus in gear. You shouldn't be able to turn the wheels, and if they do turn you hear a bunch of grinding noises.
Mine snapped when I accelerated out of a turn. I fixed mine and it wasn't to hard.
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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cough, cough.. clutch... cough, cough... |
good advise...
Pulled the engine tonight, and much to my surprise the clutch was trashed, clutch bits everywhere... what in the world could have caused this? i've replaced a dozen clutches and never had a problem...
thanks for the help guys, looks like i owe a few folks a beer if they ever come through town! time to order a few part and see if i can't get her back on the road... |
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davebuckholts Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2004 Posts: 2173 Location: South GA
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bikesnbuses Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2005 Posts: 351
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Just curious..You said it was new,what brand is it,where did you get from? _________________ Willing to trade any parts toward/for pre 1950 balloon tire bicycles and 1970-1980 BMX bikes/parts |
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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YUP, new.... brand new... I’ve got maybe 90 miles on it... the engine is a 1776sp and it's in a single cab... no 6k starts here... nice and slow....
The clutch is from oreillys, won't be buying vw parts from them any more...
At least it's an easy fix, i was expecting massive destruction |
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davebuckholts Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2004 Posts: 2173 Location: South GA
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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mastajusty wrote: |
YUP, new.... brand new... I’ve got maybe 90 miles on it... the engine is a 1776sp and it's in a single cab... no 6k starts here... nice and slow....
The clutch is from oreillys, won't be buying vw parts from them any more...
At least it's an easy fix, i was expecting massive destruction |
You always expect the worst scenario! Glad it's nothing more.
I would take it back to Oreilly's just to let them know. You never know what a manager will do to appease a customer. _________________ My '66 RHD Japanese bug build..which has stalled!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=471759&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
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mastajusty Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Chattavegas
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I would take it back to Oreilly's just to let them know |
good point, worth a shot anyways... the worst they can say is "sorry" |
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Mr. Electric Wizard Samba Member
Joined: August 07, 2003 Posts: 2846 Location: Smyrna, TN
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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mastajusty wrote: |
thanks for the help guys, looks like i owe a few folks a beer if they ever come through town! time to order a few part and see if i can't get her back on the road... |
Awesome!
For a stockish engine I have had the best luck with Scat clutches.
I'm sure there are better ones, but these seem to be ok for the most part. _________________ "Saying what we think gives us a wider conversational range than saying what we know."
~ Cullen Hightower
(T)exas (C)oalition (B)uses
(H)eidenhammer (B)ully (B)oyz
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