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vwbdog Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2006 Posts: 36
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Trailer- Good or Bad? |
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Hi,
I have a '76 Westy and my family and I are taking a trip up the west coast, all the way to BC, where we'll do some kayaking. On rare occasions, I see buses with small trailers, often one wheel trailers. I've also seen more standard trailers being towed behind as well. I want one of them... My bus runs great, but I am worried about the extra weight and pulling power of my lovely bus.
Can you please give me the Pros and the Cons. I think I know the cons, so should I consider this for my trip and later?
Cheers,
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RZAR Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2007 Posts: 725
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UncleDannie Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Bakersfield, CA
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well, good for you on the trip up the West Coast. A lot of people tow small trailers behind their buses. The 'one wheeled' trailers, as you have seen, are popular. The secrete is the weight. There are some regular trailers that are very light that will work also. If you look at your bus specs, it will tell how much weight you can carry inside and on top, as well as how much you should be able to tow. There will be a gang of other forum members who will chime in on this subject.
The one wheeled types are the best, as far as you being able to back-up with with no trouble. A conventional two wheeled trailer are harder to back up.
Anyway, good luck. Do a search of this forum for 'Trailers' as well as a search for trailers in the Classified area. I found this tread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=293113&highlight=trailers _________________ Uncle Dannie
'71 Westy Project Bus
Stock 1600 engine, 15" wheels, stock interior
Anyone who says something is foolproof hasn't met a determined fool
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gutted Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 139
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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not to get off track but where in BC are you planning on going? |
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Tip for backing a trailer. Put your hand at the bottom of your steering wheel. Move your hand in the direction you want the trailer to go. Start backing with you rig as close to straight as possible and correct with small movements of the wheel. Lots of small corrections, not a few huge corrections. Back slowly and never let your trailer go to far left or right. If your wheel is cranked all the way one way or the other to chase the trailer, you are either making to large a correction or you waited to long to correct. A short trailer will come around real quick on you and crunch itself into your Bus _________________ burning down the house
73 bounty hunter, sold.
'77 transporter, junked had crotch rot.
Dubless, but have a CPR built stroker waiting for a new to me Beetle
'93 Fleetwood Bounder 34' |
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TheTominator Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2007 Posts: 898 Location: HICKORY, NC. USA
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Or, point your trailer at it's target, then follow it, small corrections. Or, since it's such a little weenie of a trailer, unhook it and push it. This last method guarantees no damage to your bus _________________ "A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth" Albert Einstein - 1901
If I can't curse, I can't fix it.
71 Bus
78 HD FXS Lowrider 1200cc
An Oldsmobile for crying out loud. |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Look for a small light trailer at Home Depot, Lowes, Tractor Supply.
I use one sort of like this... http://www.snowbeartrailers.ca/page/Model_6000_Utility_Trailer_a
and mounted my Thule 421 racks on the trailer. I also have the thule 835 kayak racks and the whole thing works well together.
Works pretty slick to carry our two 14' Old Towns + the mountain bikes behind the bus and does not weigh much, but having some temperature gauges to monitor the engine status are are really good idea. The wind is already broken by the bus going down the road, so they don't do anything wierd back there, but you can tell it is back there with your cylinder head temp gauge.
I use that stuff to also haul the kayaks on the Outback and the Comanche also so they are not just for the bus. The problem with owning a trailer is that everyone wants to borrow it. |
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fender ][ Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2006 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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once you hit bc , youll be doing 60kmph going up the mountains with out a trailer , so the added weight is forsurely going to slow you down and cause excessive Cylinder headtemps so with that being said do you want to take that chance? _________________ 1975 westy |
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deeps Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I love trailers. Not enough room in my bus for me, wife and three boys so a trailer is a must. I know its practical/easier to get a modern one but you ruin that classic bus look by hauling a piece of modern iron behind. Take your time and try and get one that suits the era. I find it easier to just unhook and push rather than trying to reverse as its so light.Here's one I made earlier.
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deeps Samba Member
Joined: June 18, 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Any chance of posting a pic of my bus I can't resist. Apologies
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice set up. A trailer is really handy to just move stuff out of the way sometimes. |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Trailer- Good or Bad? |
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There are many styles and sizes of trailer, of which the following are just a few examples:
Glidalong Popular baggage trailer, with hinged hard top
The Popular, is one of four model ranges made by Glidalong Trailers; these being the Sherwood (2 sizes), Trekker (2 sizes), Viscount (2 sizes), Popular Standard & Popular Super.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379410
Klinn Trailers, baggage trailer
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379409
East German manufactured, galvanised steel baggage trailer
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379408
Mule, polyethylene baggage trailer, from Flextank, in Wales
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379407
PC Space Saver folding baggage trailer
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379406
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379405
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379404
Spanish made, Daniel folding baggage trailer
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=379403
The above pictures were originally featured in the following magazine article:
David Rowlands, "Trailer Towing Special Hold in one: A buyers' guide to luggage trailers", Practical Camper, July 1983, pp35~38.
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This two-piece, folding, hinged boat cum trailer, called the Maverick, designed by David Peppiatt, of Naiad Marine was quoted as costing £800 in 1983.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=377891
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=377890
The above pictures were originally featured in a magazine article, as follows:
Barry Francis, "Trailer for sail", Drive & Trail, February 1983, p50.
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British specification, 1971 VW 1600 Type 2 campervan (Registration No. CMO 147J), owned by Jan Westwood, in Streatham, London, towing a baggage van-trailer, with fold-down rear flap/ramp and opening rear hatch.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=369805
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=369804
_________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: Trailer- Good or Bad? |
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Here are three more trailers to whet your appetite:
SPORTi GRP trailer with lid
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=439550
GRP trailer with hinged lid
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=439549
Compact folding trailer for easy storage
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=439548
All of the above trailers, were featured in a British magazine article, about 8½ years ago, as follows.
John Wickersham, "Pulling Power", Motor Caravan Magazine, December 1998, pages 92~94 _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
http://www.vwt2oc.net |
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jaredm81 Samba Member
Joined: August 02, 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Sinking Spring, PA
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I was looking for trailers earlier and came across this trailer which would be great for hauling gear and putting a Kayak on top. I am definetly thinking about buying one.
http://www.pulmor.com/products.htm _________________ 1973 Transporter
79 2.0l engine with weber progressive |
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visibleink Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1668 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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More than meets the eye.... _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
<-- Helga, she slammed her dub in '53 and adjusted valves with her teeth |
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BONANZA STEVE Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: Bonanza Oregon
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Does anybody know what a half a bug weighs? My buddy offered a trailer to me. It a 67 ish bug that was cut in half after a front end accident. i think it has a straight axel and standard rims. They have enclosed it right behind drivers seat. I think it would look cool same color as my 69 bus. Does anybody have pics? or has seen? _________________ He who flips me off while passing me in my Bus is not a friend. He who stops to help push my Bus is a friend for life.
1. 1969 Bay Weekender
1 1973 412 Wgn
1 1967 Ford Fairlane Ranchero |
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: Trailer- Good or Bad? |
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jaredm81 wrote: |
I was looking for trailers earlier and came across this trailer which would be great for hauling gear and putting a Kayak on top. I am definetly thinking about buying one.
http://www.pulmor.com/products.htm |
These trailers might be too short to carry a kayak, besides which there are trailers specifically designed to carry kayaks, together with a reasonable quantity of camping gear.
Three different designs, are featured in the Indespension book of DIY trailer-building plans.
Indespension Ltd, Paragon Business Park, Chorley New Road, Horwich, Bolton, Lancashire, BL6 6HG, England.
Sales Enquiries: 0800 720 720
General Enquiries: +44 (0) 1204 478500
Fax Enquiries: +44 (0) 1204 668717
http://www.indespension.co.uk/b2c/jsp/home.jsp
http://www.indespension.co.uk/b2c/jsp/catalogue.jsp
http://www.indespension.co.uk/b2c/jsp/bodywork.jsp
Self-build trailers close-coupled, four-wheeled van trailer
Self-build trailers four-berth trailer tent and baggage trailers
Self-build trailers motorcycle trailers
Self-build trailers kayak trailers
Self-build trailers boat trailers
_________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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SteelersBus Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2004 Posts: 987 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Love my harbor freight trailer. Weighs about 200 lbs empty.
As long as you aren't totally packin the Bus and the trailer, you'll be fine.
We use ours to empty the Bus out for traveling. All we have in Bus while drivin is blankets and pillows.(of course all the stuff stashed in the cabinets) All our other lil campin gear like chairs and such can stow away in trailer. _________________ Volkswagen Locksmith
25 yrs experience
Keys by Code, Locks & Keys Supplied,
Key all your Locks to one Key.
[email protected]
Granny Grose's Buses 19
May 30 - June 2, 2024
Millmont, PA
https://www.facebook.com/groups/333391253346965/
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: Trailer- Good or Bad? |
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Here's a topic thread about a Besco foldable trailer:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=275605 _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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NASkeet Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 2958 Location: South Benfleet, Essex, UK
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Trailer- Good or Bad? |
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Here's an interesting looking trailer that I found listed on British Ebay today, which is described as a "windsurfing trailer".
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194197371233?hash=item2d3710b961:g:cd0AAOSw7YZgwu~V
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=2187387
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=2187388
The trailer is marked with same emblem (three degrees of rotational symmetry) as O-Shea wet suits etc
OShea International, The Loft West, Outer Harbour, Pwllheli, Gwynedd, LL53 5AY, Wales, United Kingdom
Tel. 01 758 613 111
website: www.osheasurf.com
www.osheasurf.com/contact.html
e-mail: [email protected] _________________ Regards.
Nigel A. Skeet
Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.
Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
http://www.vwt2oc.net |
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